Rosemary:

QuoteMileHigh you are wrong.  The device DOES NOT produce 'high-level gamma radiation'.  There is NO gamma emission.  Your argument is therefore void.  Entirely so.

You are un-farking-believable sometimes Rosemary.

http://oilprice.com/Interviews/The-Limitless-Potential-of-the-E-Cat-An-Interview-with-Andrea-Rossi.html

Thu, 29 March 2012 13:54

QuoteOilprice.com: What exactly is the E-Cat and how does it work?

Andrea Rossi: The E-Cat machine is basically a heater. It uses a secret catalyser to fuse hydrogen and nickel together to form copper. Copper has a lower energy state than Nickel, and the excess energy is released in the form of a gamma ray. The gamma ray hits a wall of lead where it is absorbed and transformed into heat. The whole process is incredibly efficient and can heat any fluid that passes through the machine.

By your own logic, everything that you have said is void.  Entirely so.

So Rosemary, are you going to come back and post here and admit that you were wrong?

MileHigh

Quote from: MileHigh on April 15, 2012, 07:11:00 PM
Rosemary:

You are un-farking-believable sometimes Rosemary.

http://oilprice.com/Interviews/The-Limitless-Potential-of-the-E-Cat-An-Interview-with-Andrea-Rossi.html

Thu, 29 March 2012 13:54

By your own logic, everything that you have said is void.  Entirely so.

So Rosemary, are you going to come back and post here and admit that you were wrong?

MileHigh

Gamma ray emissions cannot - by definition - by absorbed by such thin protections.  Therefore it cannot be gamma rays.  But what is true is that gamma ray emission is associated with a nuclear reaction.  The question is what exactly is being emitted.  And that has most certainly NOT been resolved.  Unless gamma rays are now associated with energies that have heretofore be entirely unpredicted. 

I'm well aware of Rossi's reference to gamma ray emission.  But no-one has found any.  Therefore the question is still moot.

Regards MileHigh,
Rosemary

Andrea Rossi: The E-Cat machine is basically a heater. It uses a secret catalyser to fuse hydrogen and nickel together to form copper. Copper has a lower energy state than Nickel, and the excess energy is released in the form of a gamma ray. The gamma ray hits a wall of lead where it is absorbed and transformed into heat. The whole process is incredibly efficient and can heat any fluid that passes through the machine.

MileHigh

Here's a link
http://www.kingcounty.gov/healthservices/health/preparedness/radiation/facts.aspx

and here's what it says

Gamma rays are the most penetrating of these three types of radiation. Gamma rays will penetrate paper, skin, wood, and other substances. Like alpha and beta particles, they are also harmful if inhaled, ingested or absorbed. To protect yourself from gamma rays, you need a shield at least as thick as a concrete wall. This type of radiation causes severe damage to your internal organs. (X-rays fall into this category, but they are less penetrating than gamma rays.)

So.  In as much as it's a nuclear reaction then the assumption is that there are gamma ray emissions.  But the facts belie this.  Therefore are there many questions still MileHigh. And gamma ray emissions have most certainly NOT been detected.  This is the unresolved anomaly where cold fusion has still not been explained.

again,
Rosemary

added
Effectively 'low level gamma ray emission' is a contradiction in terms.  If it is 'low energy' then it cannot be gamma rays.  It's unfortunate that Rossi uses the term gamma ray at all.  But in a way it's correct.  Because that is what is required in terms of conventional physics.   The point is that there's nothing conventional in low energy nuclear reactions in the first place.  It's all still to be explained.  It is, therefore a 'new' type of energy - or as Rossi calls it - 'a new kind of fire'.

Rosemary:

For right now I am taking Rossi at his word because I want to err on the side of caution.

I also note that you are exposing the 'rot' associated with Rossi.  Is it fusion or not?  Not when you talk to a federal agent in Florida it isn't.  Is it fusion or the weak force in action?  Who the fark knows, the man acts like a con artist.  And to paraphrase TK, you are willfully ignoring the words of the person you apparently have also been idolizing because his words don't suit you.  Force that square peg into a round hole Rosie Posie, nobody is going to notice.

Your link sucks because it makes reference to "inhaling" gamma rays.  More dumbing down compliments of the Internet.

Here is something a bit better:

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What is the effect of gamma rays on the human body?

Answer:     
This section of the Wikipedia entry for Gamma Rays gives some information, you may like to read the whole entry, and look at the references. The following website may also be of interest:

http://www.world-nuclear.org/info/inf05.html

  Gamma rays are the most dangerous form of radiation emitted by a nuclear explosion because of the difficulty in shielding them. This is because gamma rays have the shortest wavelength of all waves in the electromagnetic spectrum, and therefore have the greatest ability to penetrate through any gap, even a subatomic one, in what might otherwise be an effective shield.


Gamma-rays are not stopped by the skin. They can induce DNA alteration by interfering with the genetic material of the cell. DNA double-strand breaks are generally accepted to be the most biologically significant lesion by which ionizing radiation causes cancer and hereditary disease. A study done on Russian nuclear workers exposed to external whole-body gamma radiation at high cumulative doses shows the link between radiation exposure and death from leukemia, lung, liver, skeletal and other solid cancers. Alongside radiation, gamma-rays also produce thermal burn injuries and induce an immunosuppressive effect.


After gamma-irradiation, and the breaking of DNA double-strands, a cell can repair the damaged genetic material to the limit of its capability^{[citation needed]}. However, a study of Rothkamm and Lobrich has shown that the repairing process works well after high-dose exposure but is much slower in the case of a low-dose exposure. This could mean that a chronic low-dose exposure cannot be fought by the body^{[citation needed]}. The probability of detecting small alterations or of a detectable defect occurring is most likely small enough that the cell would replicate before initiating a full repair^{[citation needed]}. Some cells can not detect their own genetic defects


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Sounds like a really benign technology that every young couple would like to have in their basement, doesn't it?

MileHigh