Quote from: MileHigh on May 16, 2012, 03:03:18 AM
Mags:

You are getting proficient at word salads also.  I owned up to my mistake, what more do you want?  I don't retain everything I read about Rossi because I am not 'mentally engaged' with the whole deal.

My main points questioning Rossi's integrity and his veracity come from Rosssi's actions himself, and I haven't heard any cogent arguments to defend him.  Instead all I hear is spoiled-sport complaining abut me.  This has happened in the past also.

Remember I discussed a circuit with a power supply and a single component - just one lousy component?  You couldn't answer my question about that circuit.  Instead, it started to sound like you were parroting all the things I tried to teach you and others on OUR.  So perhaps it never sunk in but you can parrot a few sentences?  So you knock 'em dead with all of your experimentation Mags.  It will be our little secret that you don't really know what you are doing.

MileHigh

Word salad?  Its only you here that would try discredit what I say without any detail at all as to why, except word salad.  This has been your phrase lately with Rose also. Well its pretty worn out now dont ya think? Parrot? Inane?  Tk used "inane" a couple times and look who the parrot really is here.  So how do ya like dem apples Polly? 

And as for your so called discussion with me on inductors, that is what you are speaking of I believe, I dont think your way of teaching works very well. As you have admitted to in that discussion.
I can post it here, just in case you dont "remember" that "specifically" 

Theres some salad fer ya. 

Mags

Quote from: Rosemary Ainslie on May 16, 2012, 03:21:42 AM
Hi guys,  I see this thread is getting its own share of 'dampening'.  And correspondingly I see that Harti's readership levels are falling from that earlier all time high.  I'm not sure that any opinions matter quite frankly.  What Chess is giving us is a regular FACTUAL update.  And what MileHigh is trying to do is throw cold water on all that good news.  Since that water is not going to make a blind bit of difference to the strong interest we all have in the E-cat and any similar - then perhaps one should just ignore that water - or better still - enjoy it. 

Chess - your efforts and commitment - as ever.  LAUDABLE AND MUCH APPRECIATED.  This is still my 'retreat' when the going gets tough.  So.  THANK YOU.  All of you who actually contribute to this.  I am entirely satisfied that LENR or COLD FUSION - or call it what you will - this technology will launch us into a new age of physics.  And more to the point it will salvage us from those excesses that we've indulged in the use of fossil and nuclear energy.  So.  It's about as worthwhile a cause as is possible.

I STILL do not understand why the nay sayers bother?  Is it really likely to make a difference?  I just can't see it.  With undeveloped technology they can still do damage.  But SURELY not when it's at the stage of development that Rossi's taken it.  Chess?  Is there some explanation for this?  Could it be an agenda?  Or is it just sheer bloody minded determination to DEPRESS every one who engages here? 

Kindest as ever,
Rosemary

@Rosemary:
I am convinced that it is indeed an agenda.  We are all sitting here discussing how this
revolutionary technology is going to change the world and lead to economic stability and
environmental preservation.  Not everybody wants the world to change.  Some like it just the way it is. Some have become quite accustomed and addicted to power and dominance and having the ability to make the majority of the world's population go broke while they make record profits and are able to buy up corporations and properties for pennies on the dollar. This is not good news for everybody.

Then there's the hot fusion freeloaders on the government meal ticket.  Rossi's technology is just as bad as solving the problems associated with hot fusion.  It puts an end to what some would hope to be an endless gravy train.  It robs them of grants, investments and other sources of financial support.  In addition, why will we need to have ANY conventional nuclear power plants when Rossi delivers with not only monetary savings, but also with superior environmental and public safety as well?

The foregoing is only a couple of those who LOSE THEIR ASSES in this deal.  I'm sure you can come up with several more on your own.

And they are not even waiting for Rossi's home units to hit the market.  They know that it's
all over for them once this happens.  They are already getting their flunkies to make safety
complaints to government agencies in hopes of causing the government to do what they can not do legally.  Just look closer at the recent complaint by Gary Wright and you'll notice how
much the complaintant is willing to help the government build a case against Rossi.  I mean
he "bends over ass backwards" to give legal advice and sources of various other kinds of
information with the hopes that something will stick.  In fact, the closer you look at the
complaint, the more you start to wonder if this was not the work of a team of lawyers
working together behind the scenes and then trying to pass it off as simply a routine LONE
citizen's complaint through one man.

Look how much mainstream press attention Rossi has received. Very little.  In fact, recently
there was an actress who received a bad hair cut that got more mainstream news coverage than Rossi has. 

Don't be surprised if the disinformation agents start to admit and acknowledge that LENR
technology is in fact for real.  This is how they portray themselves as openminded observers
to avoid detection.  Even a pool hustler will purposely throw a couple of games in order to
rope in a sucker.

A shop lifter doesn't just walk into a store and say, "I'm a shoplifter so be sure to alert
security so they can keep their cameras trained on me".  This would destroy their effectiveness.  No, instead the shoplifter tries to blend in with the crowd of shoppers and act like he/she is legitimately there to buy something like everybody else.

The false information being sown into the discussion is designed to undermine the legitimacy
of Rossi's (and his LENR competition) products in hopes to persuade potential E-Cat owners
that Rossi's products are too good to be true.  Like I said before, it's even how
presidential administrations sell the public on wars which are really waged on false
pretenses.  And this stuff can really work.  Just as sure as the public backed Bush Jr. as
he started the war of his fantasies...the Iraq War.
 
Thank you, Rosemary, for your valued input into this extremely important topic of discussion.  My thanks also goes out to all of those of you out there that are spreading this good news and standing up to the sold out bullies.


My very best regards,

Chess   

Chess:

I can't tell you how many times I have read suspicions that there is an 'agenda' out there.  Like let's say someone on this site has no background in electronics or motors and barely knows how to use a multimeter.  This hypothetical person builds a pulse motor in some unique and different configuration and makes a few clips.  Then suppose that he or she gets bored of the whole thing and then stops.

You know that many people will speculate that the "MIB" got to the guy.  They sent out a Special Forces team to confiscate his motor and threaten him into silence.

Do you realize how ridiculous that is?  The notion that someone can stumble upon a "magic" configuration and that person then has to be suppressed.  The person never even presented any evidence that something unusual was taking place.

So your thinking is along those lines.  Just go to any LENR web site and start reading the comments.  A juicy Rossi-related posted article can spawn several hundred comments.  In those comments you will find lots of people that share my point of view - they want to see concrete proof.  I know that you have seen what I am talking about.

Why did Rossi refuse the one million dollar offer to prove that his system is real?  You must realize that it would have made the cover of Time and Newsweek - if it were true.   You realize that that hypothetical event would have been worth $50 million in free publicity.   With that one test literally billions of people would have been made aware of the E-Cat - if it actually worked.

So you think that Rossi is "too busy" from his schedule to pass on one million dollars cash for his company and $50 million worth of free publicity?

Why didn't he take up the offer?

Whether you like it or not, Rossi is basically a poster boy for "how to make it look like your company is a scam."

So we can wait, not much else that we can do.

MileHigh

Hi Chess,

Thanks for the reply.  It's indeed worrisome and a tribute to the efficacy of our trolls - that this LENR or Cold Fusion technology is STILL not hitting mainstream.  That IS perturbing.  I think we should all do our level best to 'spread the news'.  I'm certainly doing my bit here.   But probably not enough as it's not the full focus of my efforts at the moment.  Which is why your own efforts - and all you guys here - is so REQUIRED.  And I pray for Rossi.  He's certainly going to need some Devine intervention if he's going to navigate the full force of objections - which as you've hinted at - is still coming on stream.  One dedicated mainstream article on LENR - and I think the entire world would wake up.  It's got to happen.  Sooner or later.

For some reason I get NO NOTIFICATION of posts from this thread.  And I only occasionally get notification on other threads to which I subscribe. Most annoying.  If I didn't know better I'd say it's part of that 'editorial bias' to which I'm subject.  LOL

Not my best day here Chessnyt.  I sent you an email BTW.  Let me know your thoughts.

Kindest regards,
Rosie

Hello MileHigh

Regarding this post of yours...

Quote from: MileHigh on May 16, 2012, 11:35:26 PM
I can't tell you how many times I have read suspicions that there is an 'agenda' out there.  Like let's say someone on this site has no background in electronics or motors and barely knows how to use a multimeter.  This hypothetical person builds a pulse motor in some unique and different configuration and makes a few clips.  Then suppose that he or she gets bored of the whole thing and then stops.

You know that many people will speculate that the "MIB" got to the guy.  They sent out a Special Forces team to confiscate his motor and threaten him into silence.

Do you realize how ridiculous that is?  The notion that someone can stumble upon a "magic" configuration and that person then has to be suppressed.  The person never even presented any evidence that something unusual was taking place.

If I didn't know better I'd say that you're inferring and implying and insinuating your way to a circuitous point here.  You need to learn the art of 'direct reference'.  But then your spin would be readily contradicted and you well know this.  You really are that dedicated propagandist.  If you ever dealt with the 'real truth' as you put it - then I would have admired your persistence.  I'm sure we all would.  As it is we see that heavy handed hand waving - with all the finesse of charging hippopotamus - and with considerably less grace and force.  LOL  Unlike you, when I wave my hand I start off by looking at my clenched fist.  Then I point at the sky, repeatedly.  But I use my middle finger as I find it's way more 'explicit'.

Rosie Pose