Quote from: TinselKoala on June 08, 2012, 04:23:40 PM
I am making assumptions, sure.

that's no surprise...

Guys,

please do not get stuck on the idea of gamma rays and led absorbers.

Instead, let's widen our area of alternatives a bit, especially since Andrea Rossi himself have indicated in a recent interview that the gamma
emission seems to be a secondary product, and that the main heat production must to be due to other things happening within the reactor core.

When it comes to nuclear science, Andrea Rossi knows no more than you and me.
What on earth makes you think that he knows anything at all about the nuclear physics behind the e-cat heat?

He cannot possibly know anything. He does not have the proper knowledge to even make an assumption.
Andrea Rossi just know how to get the heat production going, and how to stop it, thats all.

He is a very ingenious engineer, but not a nuclear scientist. What he suggests in interviews about the physics behind it are no more
substantial than at best guesses founded upon his limited knowledge.

Everything points in the direction that the heat produced by the e-cat has very little to do with the small amount of gamma ray emission
detected in and around the e-cat. The improperly small amount of lead used for shielding clearly indicates this.

There is obviously something else happening connected to the process  where the created positrons meets the electrons, besides the gamma emission.
Another heat source has to be involved in the LENR process, just as Andrea Rossi himself have suggested.

George Chabot Professor Emeritus of Radiological Sciences; A.B., Harvard University; M.S., Harvard School of Public Health; Ph.D., University of Lowell
(C.H.P.), gives us the following information about the problems with heat generation through gamma emission:

"Gamma radiation is generally not a good choice for thermoelectric applications because the gamma radiation is very penetrating, and large masses of material may be necessary to absorb most of the energy, likely making for an inefficient arrangement for concentrated heat production and thermoelectric generation. In addition, large-intensity gamma sources may require more engineering safeguards and controls in their preparation and handling than do other radiation sources."


I have suggested this to be the case several times, but no one seems to grasp the facts:

10KW heat production through gamma rays hitting the small amount of lead shielding that would fit into and/or around the reactor is impossible.

Gwandau

Quote from: Gwandau on June 06, 2012, 02:23:40 PM
@ everybody

I just love this  thread!
The daily routine of entering here getting updated is both inspiring and entertaining.

Thank you Chessnyt for keeping the LENR flag high, your input is absolutely vital to this thread of yours.


And thank you dear Rosemary for balancing up the somewhat boring dryness of male argumentation dominating our discussions,
it is quite beneficial for many of the guys here who are obsviously not used to such interaction within the scientific field.


And thank you MileHigh for having been such a reliable sceptic up to now, the constructive critiscism of late has a balancing effect that is highly welcome.
(Although there seems to be some signs of you reholstering your guns in late posts, I am sure they are still loaded and ready.)


Whatever position we might have decided to take on this intriguing jouney towards the E-cat disclosure, we can all agree on one single point:


IT'S GREAT FUN!


Gwandau

@Gwandau:
You are very welcome.  I count it both a pleasure and an honor to help spread the good news of this emerging revolutionary new energy source.  After all, the real work is being performed by Andrea Rossi and those involved in the refinement process of LENR in practical applications.

@Everyone:
The skeptopaths and disinformation agents are now failing more miserably than ever with their agenda to destroy this new technology before it even hits the market.  Just the opposite is now occurring.

Instead of steering people away by the droves with false allegations, hysterical unfounded safety concerns and misleading assumptions, people are lining up to get their's early!  I have just learned that the total of pre-ordered E-Cats has nearly reached five-hundred-thousand so far.  So with 1/2 a million people pre-ordering Rossi's E-Cat, it's going to be tough to get ALL of these people to be silent once they start using their E-Cats personally.  Who needs to advertise when the customers are already lining up?

I believe the real challenge for Andrea Rossi now is to somehow keep up with the G R O W I N G demand.  This guy is going to be sold out of E-Cats before they even have a chance to hit the stores!  I'm thinking about pre-ordering more!!!  SERIOUSLY!


Best Regards,

Chess 

TinselKoala:

"I don't care how the power is generated.... I just want to see somebody tell me how to get that much power OUT of that small mass, however it's distributed by volume, and put it INTO a flow of 600 degree steam at a rate of 10 kW"

If you don't care how the power is generated and just need to see 10kw coming from a tiny source, I guess I could put two carbon electrodes in a small water cooled container and connect my TIG welder, I estimate about 20kw output but you won't see much after watching it run for a while.

I'm glad I signed up early for my units!