No I am not avoiding the real question and Gwandau's question was just a rhetorical question and you are fully aware of it.

I stand by everything I stated with a perfectly clear conscience.  You, on the other hand are just a pathetic person that goes around looking for fights and for a significant percentage of the times you manufacture the fights by doing all sorts of spinning and twisting of what people are saying.

In other words, you go around lying in order to start confrontation because you get pleasure from that.

It's fucking sick, and you are a sick person as far as I am concerned.

You know the line:

Making you unhappy makes Wilby happy.

You are not here to engage people and discuss interesting ideas, you are the only real troll on this whole web site.

Quote from: MileHigh on July 01, 2012, 09:16:34 PM
Gwanday:

I have told you many times, there is no independent third-party validation of Rossi's claims and the narrative associated with Rossi smells like it is a con job.

MileHigh

Wrong, MileHigh, the third party validations performed has been done by independent scientists.

QuoteHere is an example of some common sense: You can't set up a factory that's supposed to produce a million complex energy producing devices per year without some awareness of this project making it onto the Internet. It's IMPOSSIBLE in this day an age. Even small town newspapers have web sites. Just that fact alone is a very serious hit to Rossi's credibility.

Wrong again, you can easily keep anyone off your manufacturing grounds by mere trespassing restrictions, thus avoiding any leaks about what's inside. 
By the way, who would care about an formerly empty facility among square miles of all kinds of factory buildings? Would you?

And backed up by the US Navy, eager to secure their interest in the project, you have an abundance of stealth possibilities at hand.


And you just don't seem to understand the paramount devastating result of a ecological breakdown.
It is soo obvious that you did not really read what I wrote about eco systems, the ignorance in your answer clearly shows that.


Get out of you intellectual prison, quit those stupid superficial theoretical references to either/or life extinction and welcome to a real and
very delicate interdependent ecological system that needs all your caring love to keep being as abundant and beautiful as she presently still is.

LENR will change the world - This time nobody will be able to stop it.

Gwandau

Quote from: sparks on June 24, 2012, 08:13:26 PM

     The reality of the situation is that this device or any other device that involves anamolous heat gains will just contribute to the rate of enviromental destruction by man.  The water vapor is increasing in the atmosphere due to water's ability to convert infrared radiation to heat.  As it gets hotter more water vapor and it gets hotter and more water vapor.  This fusion process will be used ultimately to heat the atmosphere.  What is needed is an endothermic reaction utilizing the existing heat in water vapor to drive a neuclear transition that is endothermic therefore sequestering atmospheric heat in atomic structure. This way we take large amounts of prexisting excessive thermal energy unleashed in the enviroment and sequester it in atomic binding energy or  useful chemical compounds like fresh water. 
    I do agree with Cheesnyt that this is a very important development and must be followed and kept in the light.  It will be interesting to see the corporate owned scientific communities reaction.  The scramble for control of the raw materials to build them and the governement licensing and taxing authorities who descend on it like a pack of vultures. Even more interesting is what the public will be allowed to learn of the implementation of this new technology.   I would also hope that Dr.Rossi continue with his research and figure out how to use his device to so something more than heat water.  It appears the sun does a great job of that already.

Nuclear Disruption & Contraction Theory:

In the formation of the neutron from positrons and electrons, the fact appears that the radius of the group is smaller than the radius of any one of its units. In fact, the neutron radius is inversely proportional to the number of elementary particles in the ring. The law of conservation of spin with the accumulation of particles requires that the radius of the group is reduced as each particle is added. The same fact applies to the photon in the sense that the more energetic the photon, the smaller the size. All photons have half-integral spin.

We observe that the neutron must exist in a state of extreme compression.  We conclude that in the process of disrupting a neutron back to its original positrons and electrons in the free state, the volume increases by a factor in excess of ten billion.  In analogy with the general gas laws, expansion against forces of cohesion is a cooling process. Since these forces exist in terms of positron-electron attraction, any process which disrupts basic matter must result in cooling. In any practical application total separation back to original components cannot be expected, but the process of cooling must be present.  In the realm of nuclear energy, the equivalent laws apply. Fusion is the equivalent of compression in the release of heat. The reverse of fusion is the nuclear disruption process which, by its very nature must absorb thermal energy. In the event that the disruption was instigated by cooling in the first place, the basis of a self-sustained reaction exists.

In short, we have nuclear fission, nuclear fusion (and/or LENR), and nuclear disruption. The nuclear disruption process is to instigate the collapse of the atom to release its total energy in the form of mesons (which will absorb thermal energy).  This energy can be released only by the process of disruption as opposed to fission or fusion. The application of this energy to a starship can insure the fact that the entire universe is open to human exploration.  The application of this energy along side LENR can be fruitful to the planet and all of it's inhabitants (As with anything else, only if it's used responsibly).

References are being withheld at this time.  For those who are interested and do not qualify as a troll, please send a PM and I will provide more information on the contraction theory, the nuclear disruption process, the meson drive, and more.  Please note, I will be on vacation this week, so my response to your PM may be delayed by a few days.

Gravock

   LENR ho hummmmm.  Zeropoint device.  There are these self-righteous assholes in Sweden or someplace who have had a zeropoint machine running their little religious community for years.  They don't think the world is ready for it.  In order to adore aka kiss the ass of some imagined being who is gonna give them some kind of perpectual orgasm or something when they finally keel over-they have chosen to give the finger to love and compassion.  The ancient Egyptian inbreds same thing.  It is some sort of insanity that develops from inbreeding that results in a physcosis whereby the inbred has this feeling of superiority as well as all the other symptoms of physcosis like hearing voices telling them what to do. They use other insane people like hitler who was a methamphetimine freak and distributed meth to all his brainwashed troops in some kind of fuckedup superiority common delusion when in reality it was a bunch of meth freaks running around with guns killing or raping anything that wasn't arayan.  The highly publicized extermination of various groups by this evil play using hitler as the patsy has allowed for the military-industrial-religious complex to continue it's control of life on earth as it has for millenia.  Zionists invaded palestine and the stage is set for world war 3.  That idiot elf bush was so mentally flawed he couldn't even keep his lines straight.  Daddy and Cheney must have spent hours mentally abusing sonnyboy after all his miss takes.  Money is an imagined thing.  It is not real.  It use to be an exchange of time.  The native americans had no counterfeit problems.  They traded in jewelry that took time to make.  It was worth just as much time as it took to make it.  If you wanted to make money you made fucking money.  This jewelry was then traded for commodities that took just as many hours to deliver as it took to make the jewelry.  The amount of time to acquire the commodities like shell fish or venison was computed and the trade was made.  Unlike nowadays when money is created with a few keystrokes on a computer keyboard or getting someones mark on a worthless piece of paper.  Profit economies always collapse.  If you buy something and sell it and your bottom line shows profit and do it over and over again pretty soon somebody is going to figure out your making money, which of course is an imaginary thing and not real, and the only people who are allowed to make money are the deceivers who control our various thought processes through lies-deceptions-illusions-propoganda-paranoia.  They are masters of human phsycology and know how to push our buttons.  Until you become aware of these practices you are a) ignorant and choose to hide your head in the sand like a stupid big bird.  b) you are a coward and choose to escape reality rather than deal with it.

Gwandau:

There may have been test tube validations of LENR, but I am still a bit suspicious in that case.  I am talking about validations of the E-Cat.  There have been no independent validations of the E-Cat, period.  If there have been, show me some links please.

I disagree with your comments about the factory.  In fact, I disagree with the whole concept of setting up a factory production line without a finished design.  Many references have been made about an automated production line and it doesn't smell right.  Do you remember this PESN headline, "Ismael envisions one million charging stations by the end of 2011."  There are zero charging stations for Ismael's non-existent car that runs on "vacuum energy."  Right now the factory has about as much credibility as Ismael's one million charging stations.

QuoteAnd you just don't seem to understand the paramount devastating result of a ecological breakdown.
It is soo obvious that you did not really read what I wrote about eco systems, the ignorance in your answer clearly shows that.

I would understand the paramount devastating result of an ecological breakdown - if there was one.  There is no impending collapse on the horizon and like I said, all of the ecological doomsday scenarios are just hysterical rhetoric with no sound basis in fact.

What would you think if the Mediterranean Sea were to dry up?  Can you imagine posing that question to some people?  They would freak out and proclaim that it would completely upset the world's ecosystems and cause an uncontrollable ecological disaster.  Well, in fact that actually happened and the world is still here.  As long as the Sun shines and pours down energy on plants and algae then the bottom of the food chain is there to sustain everything else in the food chain.  The sun powers the carbon cycle which sustains all life on Earth.  Life is so pervasive and it exists almost anywhere.  There are even bacteria that live in the fuel tanks of jet airplanes.  Life is very robust and very strong as long as the sun shines.  Many people forget that or they are completely ignorant.

QuoteGet out of you intellectual prison, quit those stupid superficial theoretical references to either/or life extinction and welcome to a real and
very delicate interdependent ecological system that needs all your caring love to keep being as abundant and beautiful as she presently still is.

Like I said, it's not as delicate as you state.  If you wiped out all of the elephants, tigers, lions, and giraffes in the world it would be a very unfortunate thing, but life will adapt and carry on.  It will not "upset a delicate balance" and bring about a major collapse, that's just a fantasy.  As long as the energy source is there to sustain life, then life will continue on.

Let's see if there is a single functioning E-Cat anywhere in the world by December 31, 2013.  I am talking about something that is non-military and being used for home or industrial use and has been independently verified.

And you know what?  If there is no E-Cat functioning anywhere in the world there is already an explanation for the die-hared rabid free energy fanatics.  The explanation is that "Rossi sold out to the military."  It's so predictable sometimes.

MileHigh