Quote from: WilbyInebriated on July 10, 2012, 09:14:43 AM
bullshit. i didn't "imply" anything... don't go putting words in my mouth that i didn't say.

me telling seamus that no one cares that he chooses to disagree with whatever he so chooses in no way implies anything about the travis effect...   don't be asinine.
what in the wide wide world of sports are you talking about son? i have said no such thing. again, stop putting words in my mouth that i haven't said!

OK. I'm sorry.


Vidar

UNBELIEVABLE visit with Wayne Travis, ZED, and team!

All,

Last week, I had the singular pleasure of getting to visit with Wayne Travis, his wife Sandy, and several members of his engineering team at his home and in the ZED workshop. In total, there was a group of about 7-8 "seekers" who signed NDA's and were treated to a tour of the ZED facilities and to a long question-and-answer session with Wayne.

Two initial observations:

1) WAYNE TRAVIS IS HIDING NOTHING! He is bending over backwards to get the word out to EVERYONE on the veracity of the ZED and its underlying principles. He gets the "big picture" and he understands the huge hurdle of gaining acceptance of this paradigm-shifting invention. There are improvements made to his machine that are not explicitly shown in the patent. That is the main reason for the NDA. But, there are no limitations for any individual to replicate this invention.

2) WAYNE TRAVIS IS NOT ATTEMPTING TO DUPE ANYONE! He spent NEARLY THREE HOURS in front of a white board, diagramming portions of the ZED, explaining some of the processes, explaining how things worked, and detailing some of the over-3-years history of the current rev.  He is one of the most sincere, forthright, non-duplicitous individuals that I've ever met! He fielded every single question without hesitation.

Unfortunately, it appears that a few posters here have now successfully chased him off, and with him goes the wealth of understanding that he was sharing freely. So, we're trading the one true expert for a couple of individuals whose main expertise is obfuscation. (um, NOT a wise trade)

Regards,
-Joel D. Sanders

@Webby1. Thanks for your detailed explanations. For the benefit of everyone, could I impose on you to ask something . In your last couple of posts, You refer to a set up with an external water column. I am pretty sure that you previously posted a diagram of the setup you are describing. Could you please post a reply number and page number for this diagram.


@All. We have problems on this thread with naysayers. No one objects to people who are trying to prove to themselves and others that this technology is impossible. But there are such things as respect and decorum. It is a shame to say the least that we have lost mrwayne`s contribution here, at I time when it would have been really valuable. As Forrest Gump said, "That is all I have to say about that."


To all the people who have witnessed Wayne`s machine under NDA. I believe we now have three such witnesses who have posted here. Whilst I find your reports fascinating, it is noticeable to me [and to the naysayers] that you are all new members. Whilst not doubting your integrity, it would be valuable to know how you first heard about this technology. I am assuming that you heard about it elsewhere, and were probably directed here by Wayne and his team. Would any of you care to enlighten us please?

@Neptune -- First let me say thanks to you (and LarryC, Webby1, etc) for helping to keep a sane discourse in the face of said "naysayers". 

Heck no, I'm not a new member (2005) (check my profile). I'm just the type of individual who reads, thinks, and doesn't find it necessary to post my few (usually skeptical) opinions on most of the discussions.  I rarely consider myself the expert, frequently have not made the effort to replicate, and realize that my two cents is worth about, well, two cents. My educational background is BS Computer Science. I minored in Mathematics and Physics, so I know more than the average non-degreed individual, but much less than the experts and genius-types.

Like many people here, I've been through many overunity highs and lows in the past (i.e. David Hamel, Newman, Searle, DePalma, Bedini, Marks, Bearden's MEG, Steorn/ORBO, etc, etc). I even got sucked in for a while on the Archer thing (God help us).

What struck me differently about the Travis device (ZED) were the videos of the Travis Effect. The effect itself is completely simple, yet completely counter-intuitive. It also is completely replicable by anyone who will take the few minutes to do it. Then, there's the machine that runs with NO INPUT. Does anyone here understand? -- NO INPUT! We're not chasing a fraction of a watt, there is not a string of batteries, there is not a magnet flipping back and forth, there is not some hazy measure of excess heat -- there is simply NO INPUT!  How can one not be excited about that?

Then, after following/reading for a couple of days, I see that THE INVENTOR is answering ALL QUESTIONS and invites ALL COMERS to witness the machine. I live in Springfield, MO which is about five hours from Chickasaw. I reason that if the effect and machine are for real, then later generations will look on Wayne Travis the same way we do Newton, Maxwell, Edison, Bell, Tesla, etc, now. Would you not give your right arm to have visited any of those men in their experimenting prime? It was a no-brainer for me. I emailed, he re-invited, and the visit happened.

Neither Wayne Travis, nor any of his associates, asked, suggested, implied, cajoled, or any way influenced me to post about my visit. I simply did it as a way to help balance the sheer stupidity of some of the negative comments that were being posted. I was visiting this forum to gain additional information, but instead was spending my time wading through the ignorance of a negative few who were doing nothing to further my understanding, either favorably or unfavorably.

Any more questions? Please ask. I'm trying to increase what I know. Wayne Travis has given NDA-signers permission to discuss anything about the machine except for the specific improvements. It's in his (and the world's!) interest to get the word out.

Quote from: jdsanders on July 10, 2012, 03:57:13 PM
Neither Wayne Travis, nor any of his associates, asked, suggested, implied, cajoled, or any way influenced me to post about my visit. I simply did it as a way to help balance the sheer stupidity of some of the negative comments that were being posted. I was visiting this forum to gain additional information, but instead was spending my time wading through the ignorance of a negative few who were doing nothing to further my understanding, either favorably or unfavorably.

Any more questions? Please ask. I'm trying to increase what I know. Wayne Travis has given NDA-signers permission to discuss anything about the machine except for the specific improvements. It's in his (and the world's!) interest to get the word out.

Could you do any conclusive measurements? Input versus output?

Is the machine working? If it is working, for how long does it run?

Greetings, Conrad