Arrangement,
Arrangement,
Arrangement,
Arrangement,
Arrangement

The original picture was missing a dot to note the starting point, that was fixed in later pictures. I cannot make that picture any more clearer.

The iron trafo version had two separate coils winded on a boppin. The nanoperm version was made using litz wire, just one winding until space run out. Then I connected individual threads to form two separate coils. So it does not matter if coils themselves are separate or interleaved. Also winding direction does not matter as you can always swap the other coil to get polarities right. The 400 meter version is not ready yet, that is made using two different coils on opposite sides so it is like the iron trafo version.

For higher frequencies I think two wires side by side would reduce L which might mean you can use higher frequency and get more power. Also thicker wire should be better.

Only thing that is needed is to get the coil in high impedance state and the good thing is that you dont need caps to do it. This is achieved with frequency, permeability and wire length. I can only play with grid frequency which means lots of wire. This would be the ultimate free energy device, simple to build and low cost.

If you have a driver ready but it puts out square waves, then put that through one 1:1 trafo to get sine wave and use that towards second trafo to get the same effect I see. Square waves might work, but sine wave is perfect for this one.
If still unclear, just ask questions and I try to answer, and there are no dumb questions. It is important to get the misunderstandings out of the way before you proceed.

Your mosfets burning could be because of square wave driver, you get higher kicks back as replacement is not perfect. Working principle of this setup is to replace the feeding signal with same signal so the impedance does not change. High impedance means high ohms which prevents current flow from AC source and this is what we want to keep. Sine wave cannot replace square wave, they are in same phase but there is something happening when square wave and sine wave occur in the same coil.

When you get this right and begin testing, start from low voltage. Energy is taken from the magnetic field created by 'something' when current goes in a wire. If you take too much, this 'something' might show unusual behaviour like cooling of the environment or reduction of weight or something else. I am not saying that this happens with this, but it is always better to start from low power and gradually increase.

@Jack --   Glad to see you back!  just saw your latest posts.   It's late here now... let me read your posts more thoroughly and get back to you, tomorrow.
- Steve

Quote from: JouleSeeker on July 31, 2012, 03:31:40 AM
@Jack --   Glad to see you back!  just saw your latest posts.   It's late here now... let me read your posts more thoroughly and get back to you, tomorrow.
- Steve

Ditto that for me as well.

But I have to say that using two standard isolated transformers with laminated iron, using only one primary/secondary per, making the connections in every which way possible, nothing was evident, loaded - amps go up, unloaded - amps go down and adding various capacitors  trying various locations only increases amps draw.

I have also made connections in many irregular ways with some pretty "freaky" results but all of that seems to be just standard expected outputs under those conditions.

I do also realize that the connection method you show does imply a really out of the ordinary method and given that this is driven by simple mains 60hz sine wave, one would have expected a straight short circuit condition, but no, it does provide output to a bulb although not OU. Still it is interesting.

It would be advisable that you measure your primary/secondary coil impedance, resistance, and let us know this vital information as without it, we would be continuously shooting in the dark. hichic.

Also, 0.31mm wire is around 28awg. There would be no advantage for using litz wire is such a case. In your description of winding, I am getting the picture that you wound 280 meters per primary in 10 meter lengths. Do you mean that you made 28 sections of 10 meters, wound one on top of the other and all paralleled or put in series.

I think the best choice would be to hire a toroid company to d the winds as per a specific build spec. I know @stivep has a toroid winder that he just got working but wonder which size toroid you would need to wind 400 meters of 28 awg wire. So no wonder ours will not work because the resistance of 400 meters at 28 awg will be pretty high compared to what they use to make these off-the-shelf standard transformers.

wattsup

Hey wattsup,


indeed in that arrangement (maybe dig out from an old electric art book) we have current multiplication at an expense of voltage drop . In the original arrangment, i theorize (although not theory at all) that current at best is doubled and voltage halved across resistor (bulb).

If you0 had a triffilar 1:1:1 isolated transformer you could achieve i supoose current x 3 at best at an expense of x 1/3 voltage across bulb. Although novel arrangement in the eye of contemporary electricians, i tested and (although in an non similar setup ) and can see no magic.

Show us some magic.. Jack!