How I relate this to the circuit in this topic is that we are using frequency of the AC and causing a splitting AND usage of the lines of force  (both negative and positive lines of force) by making a path available to each force.  We are doubling the potential differences.  We up to this point have meters and other test equipment developed to sense the effects of the positive going lines of force.  This is why we have not noticed the negative lines of force, nor even knew of their benefit.


We have no doubt all heard of "for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction" many times in our lives.  But have we ever stopped and thought of how can we use the opposite reaction as well as the positive action.  Newton slipped that one passed the censors and us for a long time.  At least it eluded me until this morning.


If we apply this with a little imagination toward "the divisable by three" practice of Tesla.  It might mean create two forces: one in any direction the second force in the opposite will naturally occur.  The third force will be created (energy) when the first two forces are recombined.

TheCell,

Have you figured out what is going on in your setup ? Would it make any sense to measure current in various positions in the circuit ? Referring to your picture, current before and after limiter bulb, current before and after each coil, current before and after load bulb, then current in the N line.

If you got scope, then check current and voltage waveforms at output and at input. Output waveform might look weird. On input side check current in L and N separately, are they different ?

One option is to use GND instead of N, then measure current coming in from L and current going to GND, also to N so you can compare. Maybe this setup is now pushing back and it confuses meters. I use stronger coils and maybe this is the reason I don't see it. Or my watt meter is just crap in this regard.

EDIT:
Easiest way to measure this is to put 1:1 trafo in front and measure primary side of this. Maybe step down trafo could be used aswell, but then something else is needed as load as 230 V bulbs stop working at lower voltage.

Quote from: Hope on August 21, 2012, 09:07:25 AM
How I relate this to the circuit in this topic is that we are using frequency of the AC and causing a splitting AND usage of the lines of force  (both negative and positive lines of force) by making a path available to each force.  We are doubling the potential differences.  We up to this point have meters and other test equipment developed to sense the effects of the positive going lines of force.  This is why we have not noticed the negative lines of force, nor even knew of their benefit.


We have no doubt all heard of "for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction" many times in our lives.  But have we ever stopped and thought of how can we use the opposite reaction as well as the positive action.  Newton slipped that one passed the censors and us for a long time.  At least it eluded me until this morning.


If we apply this with a little imagination toward "the divisable by three" practice of Tesla.  It might mean create two forces: one in any direction the second force in the opposite will naturally occur.  The third force will be created (energy) when the first two forces are recombined.

The opposite reaction is always converted into another action in mother Nature from all beginning .. You should look closer how all processes in Earth work.

You are right on that one T-1000 and this is the point,  we should be aware of this action and use it.   


It takes a lot of energy to clap with one hand, yet this is how we design and use energy in the circuits of today.


Instead we should.......as you said.

Quote from: Jack Noskills on August 22, 2012, 01:52:28 AM
TheCell,

Have you figured out what is going on in your setup ? Would it make any sense to measure current in various positions in the circuit ? Referring to your picture, current before and after limiter bulb, current before and after each coil, current before and after load bulb, then current in the N line.

If you got scope, then check current and voltage waveforms at output and at input. Output waveform might look weird. On input side check current in L and N separately, are they different ?

One option is to use GND instead of N, then measure current coming in from L and current going to GND, also to N so you can compare. Maybe this setup is now pushing back and it confuses meters. I use stronger coils and maybe this is the reason I don't see it. Or my watt meter is just crap in this regard.

EDIT:
Easiest way to measure this is to put 1:1 trafo in front and measure primary side of this. Maybe step down trafo could be used aswell, but then something else is needed as load as 230 V bulbs stop working at lower voltage.

@Jack
Measuring current before and after a circuit (lamp) : are allways the same values (Kirchhoffs Law) , and Volts and Amps of a resistor can be mutiplied to get the power, because of no phase delay. Instead at Input side there was indeed a small phase delay of 9 deg (360 deg is the whole circle) and the cosinus of 9 Deg is 0,98 and therefor negligable.
At this point I see only a difference in the impedance of the coils , and it takes only time for me to wind a 1:1 trafo with these coils.

In my household electricity there is a protective switch which shuts off all phases when a leakage current occurs, therefore I can't ground the device. And I hav'nt got another 1:1 trafo.

I will publish measurements with current limiter lamp and load lamp both 15 watts , with pictures of scope at the input side.

And if I got the time and the mood I will manufature the high impedance trafo and do measurements with the 15 Watt Lamps. I am an electrician and know how to measure power and don't think that there is a fault.
And yes, there can be options, that I have not recognized / tested nor have the equitpment to test it EG higher Frequency.


You said in one of your posts:
I have one replication now by a qualified EE, low power trafo and coils have about 35 ohms resistance. This gave about COP of 1.5, a mere 7 watts extra but it is a start.


Who did the measurements? We want to know the parameters . Voltage, Frequency,
permeability of the Core or Core material, Impedance (Ohms for giver freq. ) or Indcutance of one winding.
Was it a single trafo setup?
Let the engineer make a photo and publish it here!