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12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !

Started by hartiberlin, November 30, 2006, 06:11:41 PM

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Aemilius

Hello everyone, thanks for the mention earlier Merg....

It seems this Milkovic fellow and I have been reading the same book.... but we ended up on very different pages. Comments and discussion welcome.... Discussion already under way at http://scienceforums.com/topic/26247-gravity-driven-mechanisms/.... Uninterupted analysis and video at http://thecolemechanism.blogspot.com/.... Analysis will continue as new ideas are formed and new parts are fitted.... Emile

Merg

Veljko Milkovic Research & Development Center
e-mail Newsletter - October 09, 2012 - News



1. Conclusion of Serbian Academy of Inventors and Scientists on the Two-Stage Oscillator of Veljko Milkovic

Commission members of the Serbian Academy of Inventors and Scientists - SAIN: Dr. Rato Ninkovic (president), Zvonko Jankovic (member) and Mato Zubac (member), on the basis of the submitted documentation and following a successful demonstration of the device in the Veljko Milkovic Research and Development Center and a successful public presentation at a special Academy assembly at the Chamber of Commerce of Vojvodina (Novi Sad, Serbia), on July 11, 2012, reached a conclusion that the paper “Analysis and Opinion on the Two-Stage Oscillator by Veljko Milkovic” by Prof. Tosic Bratislav, PhD, and the hypothesis that the oscillations are more efficient than rotation and therefore the possible invention, currently when used in stationary machines (pumps, compressors, power generators, etc.), is more important than the wheel, can be fully acknowledged.

Conclusion of SAIN Academy
 
http://www.pendulum-lever.com/docs/Conclusion_Serbian_Academy_of_Inventors_and_Scientists_Veljko_Milkovic.pdf

Veljko Milkovic Research & Development Center and academician Veljko Milkovic himself are open to further questioning and calling on all institutions and individuals to consider the exposed thesis and potential implementation of oscillations in other areas of science and technology.

   
2. Video: The World of Pendulum Power
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h4Do_dTI_Ow   
 

Aemilius

Commission members of the Serbian Academy of Inventors and Scientists “....the oscillations are more efficient than rotation and therefore the possible invention, currently when used in stationary machines (pumps, compressors, power generators, etc.), is more important than the wheel, can be fully acknowledged."

Well, that may be an accurate statement in a narrow sense as far as the Milkovic arrangement is concerned, but to generate real power you've got to have speed. The elepahant in the room here is that the Milkovic arrangement is inherently slow.... in other words it's limited to a working speed that corresponds to the natural periodicity of the pendulum being employed. Another problem with it is that as it's sized up its motion will become even more slow and lumbering. My machine has no such restrictions.... it can go from a dead stop to rotating at 100 rotations per minute after just five or six well timed repetitions of a relatively small (3 to 5 degrees) back and forth imbalancing action performed on the Control Lever.   

"Video: The World of Pendulum Power
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h4Do_dTI_Ow"


I watched the video.... Computer animations are always a red flag for me as a builder, there are millions of "working Bessler Wheel" animations and we all know how that turned out. The video actually helps prove my point though.... the first generator shown with the swinging pendulum clearly moves too slowly to generate any kind of useful voltage or current, and the next one shown, the one with the "hammer" swinging around 360 degrees also obviously moves too slowly to be considered as a practical machine when it come to power generation. None of the arrangements shown can be either speeded up or sized up which is a brick wall across the road to viability. The sized up pendulum in the oil pumping arrangement amply illustrates how the motion becomes even slower and more lumbering when attempting to size up the arrangement. The pump application seems plausible enough, since speed is not a factor in the aplication.

Similarities between our machines....

1. Both the Milkovic Two-Stage Oscillator and The Cole Mechanism employ pendulous motion.

2. Both the Milkovic Two-Stage Oscillator and The Cole Mechanism require relatively little input of energy.

Differences between our machines....

1. The Milkovic Two-Stage Oscillator cannot be speeded up because it's limited to a working speed that corresponds to the natural periodicity of the pendulum being employed.... The Cole Mechanism can be speeded up because it isn't limited by the natural periodicity of the pendulum being employed.

2. The Milkovic Two-Stage Oscillator cannot be sized up without becoming slow and lumbering.... The Cole Mechanism can be sized up without losing the important element of speed that a practical machine needs to be effective.

There are other differences too, but I think those two are the most significant.... Emile

cristache

@Aemilius

Did you make any calculations in regards to energy, initial/final in different stages of your mechanism?
Did these calculations show extra energy gained by the system?


MoRo

This is a simulation of the idea I am working on in a prototype:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LNPR2foT2J4

Notes on the subject:
  1) Energy input should be measured for each 1/2 cycle of the masses full rotation.
  2) Energy output should be measured over the amplitude of each direction change.