Wayne's words
These statements are by Wayne Travis except for one by Mark Dansie,
this seriously doesn't look like someone who can be trusted on their word.

Quote from: mrwayne on May 28, 2012, 03:20:19 PM
I always keep my word, and I tell the truth even when it hurts

Quote from: mrwayne on May 25, 2012, 04:14:10 PM
I promise, you who wish open sourcing will not be disappointed.

Quote from: mrwayne on June 02, 2012, 06:47:33 AM
We will be releasing to scientific journals and presenting the Data professionally, when Marks Group reccomends.
I look forward to the longevity runs as well, Next weekend is when we have the help to set up the new
plc equipment and software.

Quote from: mrwayne on June 10, 2012, 04:40:37 AM
Mark Dansie has assembled the team for our Extended runs - critical review

Quote from: mrwayne on June 24, 2012, 03:40:11 PM
We will run our pre test runs starting Monday - after we are sure we do not have new clogs
- I call Mark and he will come - the 28 is still our goal.

Quote from: mrwayne on June 27, 2012, 05:16:19 AM
Mark will come as soon as I ask - he is ready too.But I have not asked him to come yet, I might after tommorrows Run.

Quote from: mrwayne on June 30, 2012, 02:27:28 PM
We began running pretrial tests - prior to Mark Dansie's return - I had very much hoped to be done by Wednesday.

Quote from: mrwayne on July 27, 2012, 03:02:09 PM
After this Validation testing and presentation - we will be setting down to a coalition of teams
world wide to bring this technology to the world

Quote from: mrwayne on August 13, 2012, 02:55:02 PM
Mark has set his return for the week of the 20th.

Quote from: mrwayne on August 16, 2012, 03:41:48 PM
We are solving current issues for Mark and the rest of the team's next visit

Quote from: mrwayne on August 25, 2012, 02:32:40 PM
No, I am not sharing run Data with aynone, until we have the system ready to be released

Quote from: mrwayne on August 25, 2012, 10:43:58 PM
Marks third return was delayed because our "new" system would not charge the accumulator
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Quote from: markdansie on August 27, 2012, 05:05:15 AM
I still have not seen the two day demo yet , but I never put a time frame on this.
However as with all things as time carries on the confidence level always diminishes.
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Quote from: mrwayne on August 29, 2012, 07:14:45 PM
Our OU is not and has not been the question - simple phisics can show it over and over

Quote from: mrwayne on September 28, 2012, 02:42:16 PM
p.s. our optimized system is over 600% efficient.

Quote from: mrwayne on September 28, 2012, 05:11:26 PM
It will all begin in a short time - the validation is just around the corner - I am relieved and excited.

Quote from: mrwayne on October 1 on his web site
We expect to be finished by the end of the week - assuming all goes semi well (parts delivery)
and we will be ready for the Validation!

Quote from: mrwayne on October 15 on his web site
Of course this means we will run a couple days for ourselves before we turn it over to the validation team
- I have been in clear and constant communication with them.

Quote from: mrwayne on October 29 on his web site
I spoke with Mark this morning regarding time lines, and travel arrangements
- we have selected a prevalidation member to come this weekend

Quote from: mrwayne on--------------------- November 6 on his web site
Do you feel a sense of urgency in our Development?
Have you waited long enough, are you ready to be done with all of the improvements and obstacles,
are you ready for the internal Validation, and the external validation?
Me too.

Now http://hydroenergyrevolution.com/index.php/current-objectives

This is somewhat off-topic but there are a lot of parallels.
Most of us have other specific areas of interest that are closer to "the norm" than free energy and there are emerging technologies all around us; some succeed, some fail....
I'm into aviation
Anyone want to debate the Moller SkyCar?
I just received a newsletter from Samson Motorworks  about their SwitchBlade prototype.
http://www.samsonmotorworks.com/
What's their current banner? "Welcome to the future"
This thing is heavily - privately - funded and is way behind schedule; they've been actively seeking funding and taking pre-orders - for models.... It may or may not ever "fly".

In my opinion; it might just be one of the "coolest" rich boy toys to attempt market entry - or a glimpse at a possible future. They are working within the confines of well understood and tested physics and are still struggling.

Has Wayne been overly optimistic about his goals - yes.
Have I personally invested in the possibility - yes, time and some money (not to Wayne, just in materials).
Am I a full fledged believer - No, not yet.
Has Wayne asked anyone to "Buy" into the project? - not to my knowledge - people have volunteered - and there was one "now is the time" comment on the site.

Contribute if you feel like it or just move on - this wouldn't be the first forum thread to just fade away.
Remain so focused on specific deliverables?
Is that why any of us are here?
Dale

Wow. Thanks for compiling that list, powercat... that is truly amazing. And the present Nov 6 post is definitely worth reading. Here's a little excerpt:

QuoteI decided that 160% was not good enough - and considering our latest physical testing of our TAZ is 960% - I think the timing is just about right.

That's right, all you skeptics. Two weeks ago 160 percent was good. Now they are up to 960 percent..... I wonder how they keep it from blowing up entirely....

Wait.... 960 percent of WHAT? 
If the thing has NO INPUT............. and it's outputting 960 percent of that......... well, I guess you get what you pay for.

Or maybe you just get what you deserve, in the end.

9.6 times nothing is..... nothing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XeolH-kzx4c

Dale.... aviation already has plenty of ways to kill people. The "skycar" is an idea whose time came, and went, a long time ago. I'm sure you remember convertible airplanes whose wings folded out of the way, so you could drive them down the road. The skies were a lot less crowded then, people were happy to go 80 mph in the air and 40 mph on the ground..... But nowadays, a skycar like the Moller isn't a "car" that can be driven on the highways at all, the concept has changed. It's another extremely high performance aircraft that will take a lot of skill and ability to fly in the first place and will also have a lot of failure modes that are more helicopter-like than airplane-like, and it will be too expensive for anyone but Ferrari and Lamborghini owners to afford.
Plus.... you drive on the freeways I'm sure. Do you really want to give a lot of those people another two degrees of freedom? They can barely handle straight-and-level on the _ground_, much less at altitude.

(aviator's Ray-Bans, of course.)

ETA: there have been "thank yous" and various acknowledgements to investors and donors. I str that MrWayne's parents were among the principal donor/investors.
Checking... Yep>>

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Financial Investors:
My Mother and Step Dad, Linda And Dwight Wasco, who initially helped to fund the patent attorney and then continued to be a resource of help and inspiration.
My uncle Al Travis – structural engineer, who grasped my vision and initial discovery and funded its research and legal fees without reservation!
My Uncle Lloyd Hooker - who worked by my side through two prototypes and helped to keep me motivated through the many set backs.
My Step Aunt and Uncle, Ed and Janet Wasco, who saw the reality and genuine gift this discovery is to the world and chose to support me and the venture!
Kevan Riley - hydraulic engineer, a friend and engineer who repeatedly had to calculate and verify my calculations on the prototypes and experiments.
Richard Larson - Electrical engineer, a friend and engineer who designed and wrote the many programs to collect our Data, and operate our system.
Kathaleen Reid-Martinez, Phd, a friend and Advisor, who helped direct and discern our direction.
Mark Dansie - Technology Skeptic, a friend and Advisor, who helped guide the applications and functionality of our system.

http://hydroenergyrevolution.com/index.php/special-thanks


Wait a minute.... what is Mark Dansie doing on the list of Financial Investors???

Quote from: powercat on November 06, 2012, 08:30:05 PM
Wayne's words
These statements are by Wayne Travis except for one by Mark Dansie,
this seriously doesn't look like someone who can be trusted on their word.

Quote from: mrwayne on May 28, 2012, 03:20:19 PM
I always keep my word, and I tell the truth even when it hurts
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Hi PowerCat,
Fine work !! I really appreciate how you make a good point,  your point made is very clear based on the extracts. And I sure can not refute the points you are trying to make !!  and I am not going to try either.
Since I am not intimate to Wayne's exact business and development strategy and modus operandi, I therefore will not try to argue because I would be on thin ice and sucking my thumb if I do.
This is the way I envisage a good forum should work, clear informed position statements, rebuttals and counter arguments based on fact and backed up with documentation rather than emotional outbursts !  Something Wayne referred to several times as due diligence.

In that context a few comments,
1.. Wildew makes a good position point in # 2875 and mine would be in similar vain because I believe the concept can and will work (based on my own deductions, not on Wayne's directly although they conspire in part). I better build my own to prove as you are doing (but dual zed).

2.. TinselKoala makes a presumptuous emotional  attack in # 2876,  they might be his biased on his personal feelings and opinions but they should not find a place on this forum.  His personal  emotional infused utterings are of no benefit to anyone, only creates bad feelings.  A structured logical argument would be better here.
The reference from MH that says that, "TK is a solid good guy and has done a lot of great work over the years.  No one should doubt his honesty, integrity or sincerity" , I have no doubt that he "was", but at THAT moment in time, it should be corrected NOW to read " TK WAS a solid good guy ......... but lately lost his handle on things."

3.. MileHigh makes some good points in post #2968,  unfortunately it is just too high level and too broad without any specifics to do anything with or about. This brings it into the category of personal opinion but does nothing to further this topic.
To find resolve, more specific questions need to be asked backed with reference otherwise it just remains talk to talk.