Quote from: Red_Sunset on November 04, 2012, 03:57:08 AM
It is clear from this forum that science isn't just a dull & quiet environment for geeks.
The following audio book sheds some light on what kind of intrigue might be going on here
To succeed, knowledge must be pursued by any means, with passion !

The Secret Anarchy of Science: Free Radicals (Audiobook) By Michael Brooks, read by Matt Addis
Unabridge edition 2012 | 9 hours and 29 mins | ISBN: n/a , ASIN: B008CBW9B2 | MP3 56 kbps | 191 MB

For more than a century, science has cultivated a sober public image for itself. But as best-selling author Michael Brooks explains, the truth is very different: many of our most successful scientists have more in common with libertines than librarians.

This thrilling exploration of some of the greatest breakthroughs in science reveals the extreme lengths some scientists go to in order to make their theories public.     Fraud, suppressing evidence, and unethical or reckless PR games are sometimes necessary to bring the best and most brilliant discoveries to the world's attention. Inspiration can come from the most unorthodox of places, and Brooks introduces us to Nobel laureates who get their ideas through drugs, dreams, and hallucinations.
Science is a highly competitive and ruthless discipline, and only it's most determined and passionate practitioners make headlines - and history.
To succeed, knowledge must be pursued by any means: in science, anything goes.

An evaluation copy can be found here: http://avaxhome.ws/ebooks/audiobook/B008CBW9B2.html

Red:

Thanks for this link...that book is great!  I am about half-way through and it is incredible to see how the "scientists that we have all come to know and love have fudged results now and then to make the experiment fit their theory.  Then, someone else builds on their work and it turns out they were right but, not exactly right.  Fascinating.

I listen to about 3-5 audiobooks/week and this one is great.

Thanks again.

Bill

Quote from: powercat on November 10, 2012, 03:44:40 AM
I know you follow Wayne blindly and you decide to ignore the evidence that he is not to be trusted, so if
you continue to make statements like that I will feel obliged to show everyone a list of broken promises

Wayne Travis is a liar and I am showing the evidence.

Quote from: mrwayne on May 28, 2012, 03:20:19 PM
I always keep my word, and I tell the truth even when it hurts

Quote from: mrwayne on May 25, 2012, 04:14:10 PM
I promise, you who wish open sourcing will not be disappointed.

Quote from: mrwayne on June 02, 2012, 06:47:33 AM
We will be releasing to scientific journals and presenting the Data professionally, when Marks Group reccomends.
I look forward to the longevity runs as well, Next weekend is when we have the help to set up the new
plc equipment and software.

Quote from: mrwayne on June 10, 2012, 04:40:37 AM
Mark Dansie has assembled the team for our Extended runs - critical review

Quote from: mrwayne on June 24, 2012, 03:40:11 PM
We will run our pre test runs starting Monday - after we are sure we do not have new clogs
- I call Mark and he will come - the 28 is still our goal.

Quote from: mrwayne on June 27, 2012, 05:16:19 AM
Mark will come as soon as I ask - he is ready too.But I have not asked him to come yet, I might after tommorrows Run.

Quote from: mrwayne on June 30, 2012, 02:27:28 PM
We began running pretrial tests - prior to Mark Dansie's return - I had very much hoped to be done by Wednesday.

Quote from: mrwayne on July 27, 2012, 03:02:09 PM
After this Validation testing and presentation - we will be setting down to a coalition of teams
world wide to bring this technology to the world

Quote from: mrwayne on August 13, 2012, 02:55:02 PM
Mark has set his return for the week of the 20th.

Quote from: mrwayne on August 16, 2012, 03:41:48 PM
We are solving current issues for Mark and the rest of the team's next visit

Quote from: mrwayne on August 25, 2012, 02:32:40 PM
No, I am not sharing run Data with aynone, until we have the system ready to be released

Quote from: mrwayne on August 25, 2012, 10:43:58 PM
Marks third return was delayed because our "new" system would not charge the accumulator
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Quote from: markdansie on August 27, 2012, 05:05:15 AM
I still have not seen the two day demo yet , but I never put a time frame on this.
However as with all things as time carries on the confidence level always diminishes.
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Quote from: mrwayne on August 29, 2012, 07:14:45 PM
Our OU is not and has not been the question - simple phisics can show it over and over

Quote from: mrwayne on September 28, 2012, 02:42:16 PM
p.s. our optimized system is over 600% efficient.

Quote from: mrwayne on September 28, 2012, 05:11:26 PM
It will all begin in a short time - the validation is just around the corner - I am relieved and excited.

Quote from: mrwayne on October 1 on his web site
We expect to be finished by the end of the week - assuming all goes semi well (parts delivery)
and we will be ready for the Validation!

Quote from: mrwayne on October 15 on his web site
Of course this means we will run a couple days for ourselves before we turn it over to the validation team
- I have been in clear and constant communication with them.

Quote from: mrwayne on October 29 on his web site
I spoke with Mark this morning regarding time lines, and travel arrangements
- we have selected a prevalidation member to come this weekend

Quote from: mrwayne on November 6 on his web site
Do you feel a sense of urgency in our Development?
Have you waited long enough, are you ready to be done with all of the improvements and obstacles,
are you ready for the internal Validation, and the external validation?
Me too.

I agree, all this waiting is extremely nerve wracking.  At the same time I understand that whenever an electrical, mechanical or electro-mechanical device is being developed, there are ALWAYS, ALWAYS, ALWAYS and ALWAYS problems, setbacks, budget restraints, and numerous other hindrances.  As Wayne and Mark said, it will be when it will be.  What a pain in the ass.

Quote from: Xaverius on November 10, 2012, 04:34:36 PM
I agree, all this waiting is extremely nerve wracking.  At the same time I understand that whenever an electrical, mechanical or electro-mechanical device is being developed, there are ALWAYS, ALWAYS, ALWAYS and ALWAYS problems, setbacks, budget restraints, and numerous other hindrances.  As Wayne and Mark said, it will be when it will be.  What a pain in the ass.

This is a very simple problem to fix or avoid, in a manner that would both silence skeptics definitively, and open the pearly Gates of Investment, not to mention starting the Scientific Revolution all over again.

Can anyone tell me what this simple fix, this utterly incontrovertible method is?

Anyone?

Yes, you, there in the back with the funny moustaches and the dapper demeanor.... Nikolaus something, or Nikita, was it? What do you say?

That's right, Nicky, very good. You NEVER take apart your working prototypes for any reason, and you display those WORKING prototypes whenever questions arise as to whether or not.... they work as claimed.

Quote from: Pirate88179 on November 10, 2012, 04:16:32 PM
Red:

Thanks for this link...that book is great!  I am about half-way through and it is incredible to see how the "scientists that we have all come to know and love have fudged results now and then to make the experiment fit their theory.  Then, someone else builds on their work and it turns out they were right but, not exactly right.  Fascinating.

I listen to about 3-5 audiobooks/week and this one is great.

Thanks again.

Bill

The situation exists today in another way.  The "accepted" science of today in astronomy is that our earth wobbles causing the precession of the equinoxes.  However, the math does not work.  The scientists keep coming up with fudge factors and convoluted theories to explain why they need yet another fudge factor.  While the obvious answer that is simple and mathematically consistent is that our solar system is bound to SiriusA/B+ as a binary system with a 24,000 year orbit.  All the observational data for many thousands of years, and the precise scientific data of the last 20 years points to this. 

http://www.viewzone.com/sirius.html

I am a firm believer in the scientific method, but it appears that quite a few scientists only believe in it when it conveniently agrees with their learned prejudices or desired outcome.  I lost confidence in what the scientific community says years ago.  They say or prove whatever will bring in more funding to their projects.  Today, I have to consider the motivations of the scientists and where their funding comes from to help "interpret" their conclusions.  In other words, I take everything with a grain of salt.

I am very keen to proceed on this thread with an unbiased assessment of real data and how a ZED works, and leave all the conclusions out of it until the data is all in.  Believers, non-believers, and undecided should not matter to analyzing data.

~Dennis

Hi,
    Tinsel, thank you for thought experiment see-saw, my brain has been working on it while I do my ordinary work and I'm sort
of getting bits of it.
      Nothing ever became of James Kwok and his Hidro tower as far as I can see and nothing seems to happen with Wayne.
   I think what's needed is to work on ideas that are sensible and achievable. PV panels seem to be advancing quite nicely but
the big stumbling block is always storage, if only a battery could be developed that didn't degrade and was affordable solar
would become a major player.
   A permanent magnet excites many inventors, it can do a bit of, work but only once, just like a tensioned spring and that's
your lot.
     could anything be done with say a superconducting motor? I guess that once a superconducting circuit is switched it would
die which would then be of little advantage.
                                                                    John.