Quote from: lumen on December 06, 2012, 11:20:58 AM
Quenco falls in the same line as Hot Nuclear Fusion, It can be mathematically proven to work, It can be shown to work on a small scale,(less out than in).
Yet do we have Hot Fusion Reactors?

No we don't, and they aren't expected for another 30-50 years or so by which time the R&D will have cost the taxpayer well in excess of €100,000,000,000 or about $130,000,000,000. Yikes!

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Quenco is not a matter of if...., it is a matter of when!

Maybe. We're a long way from being able to say 'when'....we are still at the 'if' or 'unlikely' (especially with the 1cm tile = 10kW claim!) stages

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The if in Quenco, comes only from design issues and not the concept of the device. The Hot Fusion Reactor has gone through many different design issues and is likely to never become a reality even though the process is known to work.

And Hot Fusion differs from Quenco in what way (apart from the hot fusion process is known to work on paper)?

http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2012/sep/16/nuclear-fusion-iter-jet-forshaw

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Quenco will become reality once the required design becomes physically possible to build.

And economical.

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This could require a new step or process, but is still far more likely to be achieved than a working process in Hot Fusion and Quenco would also be the better source for future energy.

I hope it is If we could see a Quenco tile powering a cellphone that would be a great - even a handful of LEDs would be a good start

Quote from: trim12 on December 06, 2012, 12:42:21 PM
You could always get an electric golf cart, mobility scooter or even an old milk float, get some sceptical reporter to drive them  across the USA.

Or even just make a proof of concept with a small DC motor (say from a handheld fan) with 2 wires and a Quenco tile. This would be much easier, cost next to nothing (for the fan) and has the benefit of having all the components visible. Using a car is a bit overkill and unnecessary expense I would say.
If you can prove the initial concept and start small (managing expectations!) then it should be an easy sell to the likes of Tesla if the concept is scalable (and economical).

I am getting sick of people who only have $ signs in their eyes !

Hey people, your last shirt will not have any pockets !

So where to stuff all the money when you are dead...?

We are here on earth to give and help others...
not to die rich...and forget the poor !

Please work on your Karma !

Regards, Stefan.

Quote from: hartiberlin on December 06, 2012, 07:48:20 PM
I am getting sick of people who only have $ signs in their eyes !

Hey people, your last shirt will not have any pockets !

So where to stuff all the money when you are dead...?

We are here on earth to give and help others...
not to die rich...and forget the poor !

Please work on your Karma !

Regards, Stefan.

well said! humanity will remain, for the most part, inhuman until people start to embrace such ideas.

Quote from: hartiberlin on December 06, 2012, 07:48:20 PM
I am getting sick of people who only have $ signs in their eyes !

Hey people, your last shirt will not have any pockets !

So where to stuff all the money when you are dead...?

We are here on earth to give and help others...
not to die rich...and forget the poor !

Please work on your Karma !

Regards, Stefan.

Stefan,  I'm not sure who you are referring to by this post but if it's Phil I think you have him pegged completely wrong.  I'm not sure if it was posted here or in some of the email (not PM but email) messages I've had with him but he (and I do assume people are being honest unless proven otherwise) has said he is not out to get rich on this by any means.  He said he just wants to be able to retire to a small chicken ranch.  As I understand it most of the money from licensing will go into a foundation that will provide Quenco devices to those who really need it and can't afford it including many third world countries that have no power and no clean water due to lack of power.  Everything in my life experience (and training to hire quality people) tells me Phil is a very altruistic humanitarian that will do great things for the people of this planet if Quenco can succeed in navigating all the stumbling blocks placed along the path to success in getting this out to the world.   My only concern at this time is whether something this potentially Earth changing will be allowed to go fully forward.  In the long run I have no doubt it will be for the best of all but along the way many established businesses will likely take a big fall.  But new ones will spring up and I think a real revolution will take place in the way so many things are done.