Please also take into consideration this is not something that can be readily made in someone's garage.  It takes high tech very expensive equipment to produce from what I understand.  Companies with this type of equipment stand to make huge profits if this pans out the way I think it will.  There is no reason for all the profits to go to the companies if this revolutionary concept can help so many in the world who don't even have clean water or any power at all and I believe Phil knows this and wants to insure everyone can benefit from his discovery. 

Cheaper food and water will just be the start.

Quote from: hartiberlin on December 06, 2012, 07:48:20 PMI am getting sick of people who only have $ signs in their eyes !

Well, it takes about 3 generations (almost 100 years) to completely change an "idea", because the old ones simply have to die out with their "idea". Change itself can happen much earlier in localized places but isn't "visible" for quite a while (for example, local communities might be far ahead already but mainstream largely ignores it). And it's exponential: It might take two decades for a less than 1% change and then suddenly becomes visible for the more aware within a few years.  So it needs some patience...

Quote from: hartiberlin on December 06, 2012, 07:48:20 PM
I am getting sick of people who only have $ signs in their eyes !

Hey people, your last shirt will not have any pockets !

So where to stuff all the money when you are dead...?

We are here on earth to give and help others...
not to die rich...and forget the poor !

Please work on your Karma !

Regards, Stefan.

The fact that things cost money isn't going to go away anytime soon. The only one with $ signs appears to be PJH. I just don't buy the argument against making the info open!
If you don't want someone having a monopoly (which is what a patent gives for a period), or destroying the idea and making it disappear, put the info into the public domain!

Let every company make it, large and small, assuming they invest in the equipment. This should help drive the cost down....especially if they don't have to throw down 250 million for a license and then royalties! Right now its a closed-ship, large license fees, no info, royalties etc.

'Open source' the info, many companies and institutions will try and replicate and it will only act to push forward the development.....like whats happening with nuclear fusion.

There is the issue of the foundation (and its reliance on large royalties and license fees) and its charitable donations of Quenco, this could be solved somehow I guess?

Maybe I am missing a few key points here (do let me know what they are if I am!) but in new research its normally a good idea to pool resources....unless you want to have a monopoly of course!
This approach has worked well with fusion....

Another 2c from me.

MBM

Quote from: Madebymonkeys on December 08, 2012, 03:21:29 PM
The fact that things cost money isn't going to go away anytime soon. The only one with $ signs appears to be PJH. I just don't buy the argument against making the info open!
If you don't want someone having a monopoly (which is what a patent gives for a period), or destroying the idea and making it disappear, put the info into the public domain!

Let every company make it, large and small, assuming they invest in the equipment. This should help drive the cost down....especially if they don't have to throw down 250 million for a license and then royalties! Right now its a closed-ship, large license fees, no info, royalties etc.

'Open source' the info, many companies and institutions will try and replicate and it will only act to push forward the development.....like whats happening with nuclear fusion.

There is the issue of the foundation (and its reliance on large royalties and license fees) and its charitable donations of Quenco, this could be solved somehow I guess?

Maybe I am missing a few key points here (do let me know what they are if I am!) but in new research its normally a good idea to pool resources....unless you want to have a monopoly of course!
This approach has worked well with fusion....

Another 2c from me.

MBM

If you want to give it away then you better have a patent on it or someone else will patent it and prevent you from giving it away.