But, if the free wheeling rotor is not faster than the U coils loaded, of which I believe he intends to be showing, then there is something to it.

For example, if we added 2 more U core/coils loaded, while it was running introduce the core/coils loaded and we get further speedup, this is a good thing. 

But that would have to be tested also. But firstly the freewheel test would be worth a 1000 words. 

Mags

Hi Mags,

I agree with you on both of your posts.

I do think that in his U shape iron rods eddy currents are induced as the rotor magnets go across the prongs and the coils on the rods are unloaded.  And when these coils are loaded, the flux from the coil (Lenz effect) reduces the magnetization in the iron so eddy losses become less, the prime mover DC motor "sees" less drag, so RPM can go up, toghether with an input current reducement.  The builder of this setup should indeed remove the two U shaped iron rods and show the RPM and input current in that case too.
Unfortunately, several tests have been shown "as rotor speeds up under load" but the same problem may hamper those tests too.  More careful tests are needed.

Gyula

Quote from: gyulasun on February 17, 2013, 03:31:59 PM
Hi Mags,

I agree with you on both of your posts.

I do think that in his U shape iron rods eddy currents are induced as the rotor magnets go across the prongs and the coils on the rods are unloaded.  And when these coils are loaded, the flux from the coil (Lenz effect) reduces the magnetization in the iron so eddy losses become less, the prime mover DC motor "sees" less drag, so RPM can go up, toghether with an input current reducement.  The builder of this setup should indeed remove the two U shaped iron rods and show the RPM and input current in that case too.
Unfortunately, several tests have been shown "as rotor speeds up under load" but the same problem may hamper those tests too.  More careful tests are needed.

Gyula

Hey Gyula

Thanks.  Its easy to overlook some things, if they havnt 'seen' them before. 

I was thinking the same on the eddies. Or even maybe like the Orbo. But then there is still the loaded coils, as they should have provided drag. Or was he getting delayed lenz.
The coils are big, and 2 of them(in series?) is large inductance compared to the 2 lil buggers below. Or are they a special winding? 

Lots of unknowns.

Mags

Thought you guys might be interested in this-

I am selling a huge lot alternative energy stuff including a couple SSGs, Muller style dynamo, Ed Leedskanlin's perpetual motion holder and LOTS of extra components, and hardware, on Ebay-
www.ebay.com/itm/150998286170

Hopefully this stuff will sell, soon, so I can buy more stuff. . .

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I just reviewed this video.
It does appear to be a very interesting demonstration of what Ed Leedskanlin called 'dual magnetic currents'

Just more evidence the current state of the art, including motors, transformers, and measuring devices, are totally one sided, 50%, or less, efficient than they should be and our meters are not telling us the whole story. . .

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Quote from: shinz62 on February 17, 2013, 01:47:22 PM
Scortch,


Have you seen this?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJl0TO_aR6M


It looks very interesting.