"The coil for electro-magnets patent is not about lifting magnets as such. But
it is definitely about negating reactance, which is not an issue with
uninterrupted DC. So it's about pulsed and AC magnets."[/size]


Gyula's in an exchange with a guy over at Energetic Forum who got greater compass deflection from a bifilar. [/size]

Tesla was slick.  In his patents he always presents a lesson.  In his patent for using cooling devices he for some reason applied for the patent then said it was useless.  To negate resistance problems in his freely oscillating transformer secondaries instead of using refrigeration  he ends up implying just increase the self-inductance of the windings.  The induced voltage will cancel out any voltage drop due to resistance.  Another thing that is confusing me is,  in his patents pertaining to the magnifying transmitter I don't see any disruption device.  No spark gap-no nothing just a capactior or a generator.    Last thing I knew a capacitor can only act as a dc current source.   Also in earlier patents he referenced the use of a dynamo feeding his primaries to start oscillations in his secondaries.  Again no reference to a switching device.  I think he alternately condenses the local electrical field into a condensor.  The local electrical field is rarified.   Mother nature abhors a vacuum and pours some more whatever it is thingies into the rarified situation.   He makes sure that the condensor is discharged after the local electrical field is back to status quo.  The electricity leaving the condensor expands in the scalar field and therefore causes a displacement wave to travel in the scalar electric field.  He is directly effecting whatever produces charge therefore is immune to losses involved moving mass about.

Quote from: synchro1 on July 15, 2013, 06:45:59 PM
Look, get Gyula to run 9 volt A.C. through his iron core biflilar and test the magnetic pull and heat. Then try and run that same 9 volt A.C. current through the single wire version, then compare the heat and pull to the bifilars. I can tell you right off the bat that the single wire coil will very shortly grow too hot to touch, while the series bifilar remains cool! Why don't you try it "Hawkings"? Practicly everyone has tried to run A.C through a single wire electromagnet and caused an electicel fire.

Hi synchro1,

How can I exactly go about to test the magnetic pull and heat when the 50 or 60 Hz AC current is used? Please describe the details.

(Both my single and bifilar coils have about 417 and 423 uH inductance respectively, and 1.6 Ohm DC resistance. So the AC reactance at 50 or 60 Hz is about 0.13 to 0.15 Ohm, a negligible value beside the 1.6 Ohm DC resistance, so in case of a 12V wall outlet transformer the AC current taken by any of the coils is about 12 V/1.73 Ohm = 6.9 Amper. I repeat: for both coils.)

Quote from: synchro1 on July 16, 2013, 01:02:51 AM
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Gyula's in an exchange with a guy over at Energetic Forum who got greater compass deflection from a bifilar.

In fact, the guy has disappeared for 4 days now, left unanswered questions on his setup and on the bifilar coil test setup used by two yahoo group members he had referred to. 
By the way, using a compass for comparing fields demand much higher precision to observe than using paper clips or nuts because less than a mm difference in the distances already can give high differences in compass deflection.

Gyula

Gyula,

What about using a Hall effect sensor to detect the strength of the alternating B field? Even a DC sensor might provide adequate measurement (half-wave)? It may be worth a try.

Google the "UGN3503". It is flat to 23kHz.

Quote from: poynt99 on July 16, 2013, 09:31:12 AM
Google the "UGN3503". It is flat to 23kHz.

But it may be out of production. Patrick's book suggests the A1302. Is this OK?