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Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .

Started by Mk1, July 25, 2010, 11:45:22 PM

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Hi everyone, this is my first post, I'm glad to find this place!
I have been fascinated by Ed for many years and for many reasons. One of his main draws to me is in his writing. I study and practice tai chi and Qi (chi) the energy worked with in the art has always been assumed to be minute electric current. Ed clarified this concept in his explanation of magnets and how they form everything. They say in tai chi that Qi's movements through the body is always closely associated with the movement of blood --makes perfect sense because of blood's iron content. This is only the tip of the  iceberg however, but I won't bore you with details but just to say that there are ground rules to successful practice that all conform to what Ed stated in his book Magnetic Current.

Along those lines, I would like to state that I believe Ed's machine was not created until well after all of the stones were in place. If that is so, then his secret must be from a different source. One place I am looking is partially exemplified in this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=npyYLMv2cpk 
I do believe he was in some way controlling energy and I think it was partly understanding the energy of the area and doing "something" with the leyden jars--just not sure what! But I came across information at some point a few years ago that stated that at the original site at Florida City, that there were leyden jars in the pit where he extracted blocks--they were in the corners aiming inward.

Anyway, glad to be in this group!

sparks

  Ed was into electronics also.  There was a glass bottle sealed with a cork and about it he had wrapped a copper coil of heavy wire he salvaged from automotive starter motors,   It was displayed on the wall along with various parts he had salvaged from radios from the salvage yard.  If you look at his generator it is a variable reluctance generator.  There is a magnetic circuit in any generator and by varying the reluctance or magnetic resistance to this magnetic current you can vary the magnetic field about a conductor.  His generator had copper windings (stolen after he passed on) .   What he has are permanent magnets initiating magnetic current through a steel loop.  When he cranks the generator he changes the resistance to this magnetic current and induces a current in the copper windings by varying the magnetic field they are lieing in.  It would be the equivalent of not pulling the keeper off his pmh but using a disk with slots in it for a keeper.   The disk is caused to spin and when a slot lines up with the two core legs the magnetic current drops.  When the steel in the disc lines up with the core legs the magnetic current increases.  According to faradays (could be Lenz) law electrical current flowing in the coils will produce a magnetic field that opposes the force producing the magnetic field change.  This is why when we push a permanent magnet into a coil the resultant current flow in the copper increases the amount of force needed to advance the permanent magnet through the core.  In this case we are not moving the permanent magnet at all nor are we moving the conductor at all.  Both are static.  The load current creates a magnetic field that counters an increase in the magnetic circuit reluctance.  But when does this current flow?.  The coil has high inductance which will phase shift the current flow.  So the electrical current flows to the load decreases the reluctance of the magnetic circuit and this should be just about the time the slot has cleared the core faces.  Now the permanent magnet produced magnetic current finds it easier to flow due to both the keeper being back in place and the decrease in reluctance of that portion of the core passing
through the load coil.  Again the coil finds itself in a changing magnetic field density and moving electrons (often at velocites up to 1/6 the speed of light) are guided to move towards one end of the wire more than the other.  Voltage appears at the ends of the coil.  There are losses to be overcome such as eddy currents in the core and keeper. (steel has free electrons too)
   Another thing using magnetic currents is that he would use steel cables as conductors.  The place was loaded with them while under construction.  He also salvaged copper wires from the starter motors in the junkyard.  If we take a steel cable and around one end we wrap some copper wire.   Cause current to flow in the copper wire at this end.  At the far end we wrap copper wire around it.  Now take the far end and along a return steel cable and attach it to the other end forming a loop.  What you have is a simple transformer with an extended core.  This may be more efficient than electrical transmission.  When you come to think of it we have to force the magnetic field in a transformer core to an unnatural state.  We can connect in series with our transformer primaries ballasts so that we use the magnetizing current to accomplish some work.  Then when the core reaches magnetic saturation we interrupt the primary current.  All would be lost if the core stayed magnetized.  It would be a simple matter of energy from the scource being radiated in the ballast resistor and turning the core into a permanent magnet.  This is not what happens.  Nature returns the core to a natural state.   And does so very quickly if the retaintance of the magnetic circuit is minimized.  So if Ed is magnetizing his loop and using resistance in series with the primary magnetizing coil to drive a motor (to say drive the disk as shown below) and using the far copper loop around the cable as his secondary: the collapse of the unnatural magnetic field created in the loop would be able to power a load attached to this output coil without drawing any power from the magnetizing scource.  This could be accomplished by use of a spark gap or patrially evacuated vacuum tube.  The vacuum tube would act like an avalanche diode.  The low voltages induced due to the slow change in the cable magnetic field would not be enough to overcome the resistance of the vacuum tube diode.  But the high voltage due to the collapse of the magnetic field would.  Effectively inserting the secondary into the picture on collapse of the magnetic field and not during structuring of the magnetic field.

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@mp

Try to understand the Leedskalnin only trough his theory, terms and practice. If you will try to understand his work according to the actual scientific terms (mecanics, electromagnetics, quantum physics...) will waste your time! The best solution is to start understanding his way of thinking, and after that go back to 1900 at least, when all terms about electricity, magnetism and gravity and in general the scientific paradigm were still not so abstract as today!

Think a bit that Leeskalnin was a contemporary of Tesla, Schauberger, Moray, Steinmetz, Hendershot, Stubblefield, Hubbard, Rife, Rusell, Ehrenhaft, Reich and many others! Try to see the world trough his eyes!

Just my thoughts!

mp

Sadang,

That's exactly what I'm trying to do! For one thing, I don't know too much about scientific principles but it seems to me that Ed had an understanding of (I hate to say it like this) the way of the universe. It seems to me that he had such an understanding that he could make extraordinary things work no matter the tools he had on hand.

I am pretty sure I am right in this because of the number of things he pulled off in his lifetime. Moving massive stone is great but so is curing himself of advanced TB, fixing his watch, creating a pressure cooker.

Have you had the opportunity to visit the Coral Castle Sadang?

Grumage

Dear All.

Whilst new to this thread I have been mainly involved with solid state overunity devices of which T-1000 has been "Long distance" helping me with.

A few weeks ago he mentioned the device of Ed Leedskalnin and had an idea of how by squeezing the like poles of a pair or pairs of magnets might have an unorthodox effect. Well earlier on this evening we ran up just a single 180 deg opposed pair, ie one end squeezed N the other squeezed S. The magnets are Neodynium of 6mm cube form.

I have attached the scope shot that was produced by the action on a single coil. This coil has a 4 mm dia relay core and it's resistance was 113 ohm's. Note the very sharp rise and fall in amplitude.
We also noted that upon shorting the coil, very little Lenze effect was seen and the motor driving the rotor did not take any more or less current.

So in conclusion, just imagine 24 pairs acting on multiples of coils!! Well given some time, as the test was so fruitful, I will be constructing a 24 pole rotor and our results will be posed here.

Best wishes to all, Grum.