BTW,


as soon as I get some resin (which I ordered last week from ebay), I will make a nice cell and video recorded so that everyone will see what will be my first rude prototype for sell.

Fausto.

You should study user lasersabers laserhacker.com experience with his tesla-torch on Ebay and with
his website teslamaker.com. I would go that route because it gets you a higher incentive to keep producing
these. Please keep applying profit to the next volume increment. Don't get "addicted" to ebay bidding though,
open these up to fixed pricing (high) after a given time period or volume.

I want one for ~$100 USD maybe two.

Hold on to your hat plengo -> This will be like the transistor-radio and Beatles rolled into one.

I'm still studying these bottle caps basically steel with a lot of unnecessary layers due to food
processing support. Tool and die stamping machine required, so size or shape alteration would
be expensive.

:S:MarkSCoffman

Quote from: plengo on August 27, 2014, 12:02:36 PM

Thanks again. I don't know yet what price to charge. I was thinking something in the ball park of $20-$30, but to be fair,


WHAT WOULD PEOPLE HERE IN THE FORUM would be willing to pay for a small light of dimensions 3 1/2", 2", 2", rectangle shape with an LED of the possible colors: White, Blue, Orange, Green (the best) and blinking red/green/blue?


The light will be enough to really bother you when sleeping in the night besides your bed (my wife hates them because they are very bright).


Off course the income will be very appreciated for continuing my research.


Fausto.

Fausto:

A good place to begin with pricing is 3 times your actual costs...and this means everything added into making a unit, including your time.  So, if you can make a single unit for $20 then sell it for $60.  You can even go a little higher as you can always lower the price, not so easy to raise it once it is out there.  Now, when you get to any kind of "production" even on a small scale, there will be savings...like buying materials in bulk, learning how to make a unit faster (and even better)  You can then lower your price accordingly and still have your margin.

Best of luck to you on this project.  Some folks think we should never make a profit...I say, that if we make some money, then we can afford to experiment more and offer even better products in the future.  Selling your units at a "break even" will not allow you to stay alive and pay your bills while working on the next great thing.

Bill

PS  I am working through all of this same stuff in an attempt to bring my magnetic battery connectors to the market.  I am doing everything myself and it takes a while.  Once I finalize packaging, I will introduce them to the market.

@mscoffman and @Pirate88179

thank you for your GREAT insight and help.


I was wondering today, how much really believers are people in this (and other) forums about free energy? I have been asking for funds on my videos for years and ZERO (except one gentleman that gave me $5 bucks) funds given from anyone.


Now many wants this totally open source. Hmmmmmm.


I am kind of thinking that this is not fair really to me. Not even people willing to really test stuff and research with me seriously.


To those (specially you too Pirate88179 and mscoffman - because of your active participation with great insights) I will give you more than just 2 for the price you named. Some extras to your friends too.


I am planning in using all the income, for now, of the cells towards materials for this research. I got to an excellent place, but, there is much more to go.


Fausto.

Quote from: plengo on August 28, 2014, 03:19:32 PM
@mscoffman and @Pirate88179

thank you for your GREAT insight and help.


I was wondering today, how much really believers are people in this (and other) forums about free energy? I have been asking for funds on my videos for years and ZERO (except one gentleman that gave me $5 bucks) funds given from anyone.


Now many wants this totally open source. Hmmmmmm.


I am kind of thinking that this is not fair really to me. Not even people willing to really test stuff and research with me seriously.


To those (specially you too Pirate88179 and mscoffman - because of your active participation with great insights) I will give you more than just 2 for the price you named. Some extras to your friends too.


I am planning in using all the income, for now, of the cells towards materials for this research. I got to an excellent place, but, there is much more to go.


Fausto.

I can understand your position but patenting this would be kinda useless and very very costly. Just release the stuff and mnake sure it is the best product you can make. Then sell it like was suggested on ebay. Once the word gets out you'll be golden. If you keep it in the public domain it will be assured continued work since not one person could be targeted and taken out by any means. Yes in the patent searches there is a procedure to search the web for prior art. That includes patents and research on a generic search of the internet. Any mention of your process will invalidate any patent attempt including your own forum posts and videos that were released into the public domain by you. The sad fact is the cat is out of the bag. Too much work has been done already and anyone could change it by 20% and get an improvement patent after your patent anyways.
Stay in the open source and release all information and just know it was you that improved on a process already done by others. The whole concept was born in the open source community and thats where it should stay.


You have every right to charge for parts and labor and release products based on that for a moderate sum. Remember to not price yourself out of the business. You want to be competitive with existing products in the same category and not shut the door before you even get through the door. Bedini did that with his version of the battery in an led light setup. Make it too costly and no one will buy it. Good luck my friend...


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