Quote from: iacob alex on September 12, 2014, 01:20:20 PM
Hi 888 !
Why not to play the largest possible angle ? ( starting as a free inverted pendulum ).
Al_ex

@Al_ex,
The largest possible angle will be the next stage.  In the next stage, the pendulum will be replaced by an unbalanced wheel.

At this stage, it is only necessary to show that the Input Energy by the fingers is less than the Output Energy as shown by the lifting of the Weight (twice).  Success at this stage will indicate overunity.  Note that the electromagnet can be placed in a fixed position to repel the magnetic pendulum bob when it rises to the exact position.  The Weight to be lifted and/or the lever arm can be adjusted so that the system is in balance (or in resonance).  This means that the process can be repeated exactly with the pulsing of the electromagnet to provide Input Energy.  That Input Energy plus the Lead-out Energy will provide the Output Energy in lifting the Weight and overcome friction and air resistance.
The large setup in the video or similar is a good candidate for the experiment.

I attached the figure showing the large angle to do such an experiment.  Has any experimenter used such large angles?


The tension of the pendulum string does the magic twice – leads-out gravitational energy during the push and lifts the Weight with centripetal force when the velocity is highest.

Hi 888
I admire you tenacity and good nature in your pursuit of free energy or overunity. I also find your posts entertaining. However is in not time to do some reflection on your claims, theories and assumptions made over the years that have always never panned out? Perhaps with a review you may see some common areas with miscalculations, misleading assumptions and incorrect conclusions. This may prove to be very valuable by learning from past mistakes in order to assist you in your endeavors in the future. Otherwise we are just faced with the usual garbage in garbage out.
Never stop, I encourage you and everyone else, but sit back and learn from past mistakes.
Kind Regards
Mark Dansie

Quote from: markdansie on September 12, 2014, 10:48:28 PM
Hi 888
I admire you tenacity and good nature in your pursuit of free energy or overunity. I also find your posts entertaining. However is in not time to do some reflection on your claims, theories and assumptions made over the years that have always never panned out? Perhaps with a review you may see some common areas with miscalculations, misleading assumptions and incorrect conclusions. This may prove to be very valuable by learning from past mistakes in order to assist you in your endeavors in the future. Otherwise we are just faced with the usual garbage in garbage out.
Never stop, I encourage you and everyone else, but sit back and learn from past mistakes.
Kind Regards
Mark Dansie

http://www.alternate-energy.net/Dvid/view.php?video=ArX7BDY1XRM&title=The+225+HP+Pulse+Motor

I posted that video in 2006.  That pulse motor was from USA and I explained its operation at Tsinghua University.  I also explained the Energy Multiplier from Tsinghua using the Lead-out energy theory.  I was investigated as a US spy when I returned to Hong Kong.

Now I have grounds to believe that Pulse Motor was real and used in Army Tanks in China!  I shall review my theory and calculations.  Since I already have a work bench at Overunityresearch.com, I shall put the updates there.  Those who want to see the reviews and check the calulations can visit that site.  No comments are allowed at that site but those who want to comment can post here or in a new thread.

The large Milkovic 2 stage pendulum video convinced me that if we treat the finger push as Input and the twice lifting of the Weight as Output, we should have Output > Input.  My old mathematical treatment of this pendulum was wrong as it did not consider the moments correctly.  I shall revise that.

God Bless.

Quote from: ltseung888 on September 13, 2014, 12:40:05 AM

if we treat the finger push as Input

and the twice lifting of the Weight as Output

"the finger push as Input" = force x distance moved

"the twice lifting of the Weight as Output" = m x g x h   (twice)

The fact that the weight's potential energy is not saved, but reverts to some noise and heat when it descends makes no difference. I am sure this is right.

The weight's PE needs to be saved and made to do useful work by some means.

Quote from: Paul-R on September 13, 2014, 07:44:18 AM

"the finger push as Input" = force x distance moved

"the twice lifting of the Weight as Output" = m x g x h   (twice)

The fact that the weight's potential energy is not saved, but reverts to some noise and heat when it descends makes no difference. I am sure this is right.

The weight's PE needs to be saved and made to do useful work by some means.

@Paul-R,

For the first stage experiment, we just compare the Input Energy with the Output energy.  The Output energy dissipated as noise is acceptable.  The video makes it very convincing that Input Energy is less than Output Energy.  We just need to confirm it with more scientific measurements.

The best point from the video is that overunity can only be demonstrated at large angles with such setup....