Quote from: ring_theory on July 26, 2007, 12:04:40 AM
My vision isn't limited to anything so small as the world. It does great harm to me and my fellow americans! I cannot allow Terrorists to attack my country and then sit idly by while the blame gets shifted to my government. What if i was one of the next 3000+ I certainly wouldn't want my fellow americans going after the government unjustly while the real murderers are radical terrorists! You cannot present enough proof to persuade me simply because it doesn't exist. It was NOT an inside job!   

What evidence do we have that the so-called terrorists perpetrated 9/11?  So far, I haven't seen any evidence...Oh ya..we found that passport that happened to fall out of the plane crashing into the tower....Passports are constructed from paper btw..Its interesting how some of the so-called terrorists who flew the planes were later found alive after 9/11...But we should believe everything they say no matter how stupid it sounds right?  Do you believe that jetfuel caused the molten metal found on the bottom of wtc building 7?

If wanting to know the truth of what really happened makes me unpatriotic, then I'm guilty.  Do you really believe that building 7 was brought down by falling debris?  Is it wrong to ask these questions.  Hell NO!  We deserve answers!..All we have recieved are lies, fabrications, and disinformation. Let me ask you a question. 

Who gave the Statue of Liberty to the U.S.?  What was the real symbology of this structure?

Quote from: ring_theory on July 26, 2007, 12:04:40 AM
It was NOT an inside job!   

You are right, but it wasn't terrorists, but a group far more powerful.. The same group which denies the world free energy..

We better figure out whats going on real quick, or another 9/11 attack will become reality on a amplified scale.  Look what the president has done since 9/11.   He taken freedoms away, exponentially increased the debt, and started a war which have killed countless people.

I'm not gonna state my crazy outlandish theory on what this all means, cause it would be rejected on a lack of evidence or solid proof..  All I can say is that there are many unanswered questions, which lead conspiracy theorists to believe that this wasn't done by terrorists in caves.  To solve a mystery or find the guilty, you look towards the ones who have the most motivation.  What was the first thing we did when invading Iraq?  We secured the oil fields... What did Saddam do before we arrived..He ordered the oil fields to be set ablaze...  I'm still waiting on the evidence of WMDs!  Where is it?  Show me pictures of the "found" weapons of mass destruction, which was the basis for invading Iraq.

Facts can't be disputed that Bush has lied on multiple occasions to further his plans and operations. Why is it that people who question the offical story are labled unpatriotic?  Are we living in a dictatorship already?  - Read the patriot act - enacted by the great honest truthful Mr. Bush..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JRY_BOYeySc&mode=related&search=

This Bin Laden tape was so bad...Come on now...even a child could tell thats not Bin Laden!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L-8U81HBjrg&mode=related&search=

Ministry NWO

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4492110994460331959&q=nwo+ministry&total=123&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=1

Quote from: ring_theory on July 26, 2007, 11:35:39 AM

Quote from: Dingus Mungus on July 26, 2007, 01:33:56 AM

Quote from: buzneg on July 25, 2007, 09:58:49 PM
I agree those pictures should be removed, put a link to them with a warning instead.

The pics are being removed and a link will be added in their place. The pictures were really only intended for one person to publicly acknowledge, but his view on genocide did not change. Some people don't see women and children, they all look like terrorists.

(Theres no emoticon for disappointed)
~Dingus Mungus

Dingus, Bad example. genocide in Iraq?? not till we pull out. If it's anytime soon. Iran WILL and mark my words WILL rule Iraq than they both will take up arms against us. I know Men, women and children are bieng abused and murdered right here on american streets. I don't hear you waving old glory to do anything about that. Corporations have embedded themselfs deep within the government. You know there is supposed to be a seporation of church and state. Yet there is none for the corporate and financial intities?? Where's old glory? That alone should be grounds for a revolution. DHS is conducting their own genocide of the family unit. Yet again i don't see you hailing a truth movement about that? We import too much and have neglected our exports transporting the wealth to other parts of the world without a return. Still you persist with providing null points about terrorist attacks bieng some grand skeme by the administration. The administration will pay and the truths about the scandals will be out there. Then and only then can we as a nation begin to repair the internal damage that the current administration has incurred and get on with the job of placing or reinstating the checks and balances needed to assure that this never is seen in future administrations.

However I will never support seeking a means to an end. by misrepresenting observations of how a building falls or sounds like when it falls, what the debris is supposed to look like without taking ALL contributing factors into account. tisk tisk  

Alright now your talking ring. The truth movement is more than 9/11 for me.I have not said the admin did it, I have only said that they lied about it. And for me what I have seen, combined with what I know, and compared with people I have worked with know, the building went down due to other reasons. I know we disagree on that point, but I would rather not allow the lives lost be for nothing so a sham can be played on the ignorant american public. And you having your belief would rather not allow someone the "use" the deaths for other purposes. But either way it happened, it did happen, and now our gov has given itself power like never before, and has marched on two sovern nations, and they "use" those deaths as the excuse. If you don't like what we believe because it involves those lost lives, how do you feel about how the gov used them. And then discarded it and as a quote "do really think about that much" george b. . We could argue the point all day, fact is I care about your opinion as much as you proly care for mine, but we end up in the same pot of stew. The world is a mess of political BS and we need to clean our house before we do anything else. Any system that becomes too complicated to be well understood, that has become too cumbursome to change, that has become too powerful as to not be afraid of anything, has, in nature, become malicious and needs to be removed and redesigned, problem is the system has a need to sustain itself, and therefore will fight back for its own survival.

I have read someplace that politicians are like a babies diaper. They both need to be changed often and for the same reason.

Tim

PS  I believe 911 was an inside job. There is little doubt. I don't think Bush is smart enough to plan this, but Chaney???

@ ring

Bad example??? Thats funny even if they were killing each other 5 years ago, it didn't effect us. It wasn't untill we ousted hussien out of office that the country fell in to civil war. So it sounds like a great example to me...

All those other things you listed have killed more people here, than all US terror events combined (foreign and domestic in source). I care much more about those things than I do killing terrorists. As a matter of fact I would say a war on corporate control, would show us dramaticly better results in the US than the war on terror has. A point I applaud you for making...

Now for your other points. If Iran takes over Iraq how does that effect you. To go even further along this logic, Iran has offered to help us keep the country in check along with China. We refused both based on logic simular to yours. Exept our government was worried about control over the oil, money, and politics not the people.

If we stopped building bases in the middle east do think islamic terrorists would still hate us? If we stopped supporting our own outlandish foreign policy, aka maintaining thousands of world wide bases, and alliences with countries like Isreal and the Vadican, Do you think they would still hate us? If we stopped bombing their brothers sisters mother fathers and children do you think they would still hate us?

Unfortunately at this point theres not much we could do to undo this mess, but if we just stopped poking our noses in other countries affairs, then we wouldn't be a target.

Now you'll undoubtably reply about how blood thirsty and dangerous Iran is...
History is a good way of knowing this is bullshit. While the leader of Iran has publicly stated several times he wanted to whipe Isreal off the map, look at the war records... He's never done it or even came close to doing it. Simply put he, like yourself, believes whiping out a whole race of people would be benificial to the world, but can't convince people like me to give our lives to attempt such a ludicous thing. I think your both crazy though. The bottom line is if Iran is dangerous and bloodthirsty, then by ratio based on history, we are far far worse!

~Dingus Mungus