GM

Your charts are what is confusing you. They show the wave form seen by a scope which measures time not the direction of the field in respect to time. The field is in one direction left to right high to low and then reverses direction and low to high. It's to be expected after all that is what people see on a screen from a scope or in a text book. Time seems to be the greater consideration not direction. If you really think about it a scope should show the field in only one full cycle bouncing back and forth not an endless repetitive log of cycles giving the wrong mental image. Some one ells decided for you how you should think but forgot to tell you or define the image is only to view time as a long string log. The output is ac and the general image like ripples on a pound traveling along to some distant point. Nah thats a contradiction, they dont move like that. They move back and forth a very short distance never actually traveling any distance because they move back just as far as forward. That is a net gain of distance of zero. So when your mind is thinking of field direction changing you still have a length of distance traveled as part of your thought. It screws up the thought process. If you had a coil in a field and rotate the coil in the one direction the field never changed just which side of the coil that was facing the pole of reference. if you use the N for reference the N is pushing on both sides of the coil one side then the other side and so on. That is a simplification because it excludes the magnetic field set up in the coil by induction when it is output to load and lenz law comes into play.Then you have an extra field to include into the mix. Unless you subscribe to the notion there is no connection to the load and or the load has no reaction to the changing field of the generator. Thats like saying you did work without working. So in essence that would be a welfare generator. Have not actually seen one of those.

Quote from: hanon on August 12, 2016, 12:57:36 AM

I think some users dont have the problem of not understanding the commutator. They are just creating confusion and hijacking this thread for some reason.... Patents are our bible. The rest are interpretations

I would strongly disagree. What is stated in the Disclosure Document filed by Figuera as shown in the Spanish Patent Office website must be experimented as it is and observed. If the Experimental observations do not tally with what is stated in the disclosure document then we need to change the parameters until we get the desired result.

Generally when Loaded all transformer primaries will draw more current to adjust for the load. How do we defeat that? That is the big question that none has even attempted to answer but Doug has raised that question now. Did any one posting here do it..I would guestimate that possibly yes.

Regards,

Ramaswami

Quote from: hanon on August 12, 2016, 12:57:36 AM
Gmolina,

Figuera used two signals unphased 180°, not 90°. The patent states clearly that when one was at maximum the other was at minimum and viceversa. That why he patented his commutator and included it in the patent claims. In other cases he has said that AC was valid. If that were the case some very smart guys as Darediamond will had used AC from other known method in that time, as a common geneerator, and they had bypassed the patent protection. That is not the case.

I wonder if people really had read in deepth the patents. At least the patents and understand them. Later you may test all possibilities with the polarity NN , SS,  NS. But for clear reason I think some users dont have the problem of not understanding the commutator. They are just creating confusion and hijacking this thread for some reason.... Patents are our bible. The rest are interpretations

Hanon,  stop attaching Hijacking to me.

I am not seeking attention in anyway here.

I only present tested and proven Ideas.

No deliberate confusion.

No one have come to disprove the Link I post about The MEG.
The Magnetic DiPole must be complete before you can create genuine reversible high and low Motion in Figuera Device.

Patents contents are always most times altered to prevent the inventors efforts and resources being hijacked. So you have to think outside the box extremely widely to put things in order.

Chris told you youbcan not Buck the Primaries to generate useful output in the secondary let alone attaining overunity.

The Primary must be adding power at every Cycle of the Part G not subtracting Power or Buck each other. So this is why AC is essentially useful as it will give more output power than applying Vibrating DC which will only have one sided additive Power.

The case here also applies to Permanent magnet Alternators.or Generators. If you make an axial permanent magnet Gen and arrange your magnets in All North on one side and all south on one side on the Rotor, the amount of DC Output Power you will generate will be lower to if you apply Alternating Rotor Magnet assembly I.e NSNS on each rotor.

The Lenz negation is achieved in the way you.wind and connect your Output Coils. Simple.

Quote from: hanon on August 12, 2016, 12:57:36 AM
Gmolina,

Figuera used two signals unphased 180°, not 90°. The patent states clearly that when one was at maximum the other was at minimum and viceversa. That why he patented his commutator and included it in the patent claims. In other cases he has said that AC was valid. If that were the case some very smart guys as Darediamond will had used AC from other known method in that time, as a common geneerator, and they had bypassed the patent protection. That is not the case.

I wonder if people really had read in deepth the patents. At least the patents and understand them. Later you may test all possibilities with the polarity NN , SS,  NS. But for clear reason I think some users dont have the problem of not understanding the commutator. They are just creating confusion and hijacking this thread for some reason.... Patents are our bible. The rest are interpretations

Hi Hanon, i respect the Figuera original design, please see my previous posts, i'm newbie posting here, but i'm not newbie in this fields, i say two ac signals not two ac voltages is  very different, in my graph you can see N and S letters, this refer to a magnetic field not a voltage. I repeat, i respect the Figuera original design in my experiments, but all people here need have a open mind to other ideas, just like part G of mm, or ac ideas of Mr Ramaswami, or Darediamond, and try, not in papers, try in experimentation, because in the depth of all this, not matter if is Figuera, Cook, Hubbard, or a mix, i'm sure that all here are looking for energy freedom. I understand that this is a Figuera thread, but remember that Figuera time is very different to our time.  And i think that all is experimentation, observation and results.

Thanks

GM

Opposing Polarity will not work whether yo uapply AC or DC.

Nort to North nor South to South will never get the central secondary empowered so to speak.