http://electronics.stackexchange.com/questions/94828/what-is-the-physical-significance-of-the-unit-ampere-meter-in-magnetics
This means that if the cross sectional area A of a ferrite doubles, Magnetic flux also doubles.

Yes,okay,I thank you a lot for this advice !
https://www.khanacademy.org/science/physics/magnetic-forces-and-magnetic-fields/magnetic-field-current-carrying-wire/v/magnetism-6-magnetic-field-due-to-current

This let me remind to an offered image from member GM,timely up to 1 decade before,who showed us that for permanent magnets not the wide or lang is important but the N- or- S-pol active area !

Analogon.

1+1=2

http://gap-power.com/replications-by-others.html               em force + pm force = ........
In the video he demonstrates the power of a magnet's lifting capacity of 6.99 grams. He then demonstrates the lifting capacity of the coil of 21.57 grams.  He then demonstrates the lifting capacity of the combination, magnet and coil, in amplification mode, which is 76.65 grams. My thoughts on this is: ... 6.99 grams + 21.57 grams = 28.56 grams, which is what one would expect the result to be. But no, it was 76.65 grams. 76.65 divided by 28.56 = 2.68 times more power. He then demonstrates neutralization mode and how the magnetic force was completely blocked, with a lifting capacity of 0.0  grams.

There is a push&pull attraction/repulsion force difference

The amplification mode is known as experimental results by the Flynn brothers.
http://www.angelfire.com/ak5/energy21/harwood4.gif
https://web.archive.org/web/20020610043439/http://flynnresearch.net/Software.htm

Here the open/closed permanent magnet path circuit result:
http://www.angelfire.com/ak5/energy21/harwood5.jpg

and here the static or rotoric use:
http://www.angelfire.com/ak5/energy21/harwood10.gif

If there are constructed such devices,in conjunction from electro- and permanent magnets,
which is the amplification mode force effect formula ?

http://www.flynnresearch.net/technology/PPMT%20technology%20white%20paper.pdf
page 5
Low power consumption per unit of force/torque. PPMT devices generate twice the magnetic flux strength and four times the force of an equivalent direct field coil system for the same electrical input.
No  power  consumption for  latches,linear actuators,or  rotary  actuators to  hold  force.
Since  PPMT devices  derive  their  primary  motive  force  from  permanent  magnets  they  hold  with  full  force  during power-off conditions.

The problem what I see: this progress was in a 40 years schedule by known use of material specifications.

WE KNOW NOTHING ABOUT THE USED MATERIALS AND PRODUCTION QUALITIES
OF THE FIGUERA DEVICE




Sincerely
              OCWL

sounds like that reply was ran through 256 bit encryption before posting. can you de encrypt for us to understand please.

Quote from: Cadman on August 19, 2016, 02:34:20 PM
All else equal, volts, amps, wire turns, core length, then doubling the cross sectional area of the core doubles the flux.
The flux density remains the same but people forget the density is per area

http://electronics.stackexchange.com/questions/94828/what-is-the-physical-significance-of-the-unit-ampere-meter-in-magnetics

This is elementary Sir..

When you increase the duameter of the core the volume and hence mass of magnetic core  increases. Why?

Volume of cylinder is pi x r x r x h or it is 3.14 x radius squared x height.

If we use 18 inch long and 4 inch dia pipe the mass of iron is approximately 29.5 kgm. But for a 18 inch long and 6 inch dia pipe the mass is about 60 kgms.
Therefore the magnetism increases significantly and hence flux increases.

What you have not stated is to maintain the same number of turns more wire will be needed and it will consume more current again and if my limited understaning is correct it will also increase the inductance and hence flux. Output is directly proportional yo mass of iron core.

With due respect these are basic principles and observations sir.

Naturally our good friend Marathonman finds answer of lancaIV to be wriiten in coded language. What can we do? He is so lucky he sold away the part G for a considerable fee. If it was with him he could try to understand.

Regards

Ramaswami

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Quote from: lancaIV on August 19, 2016, 03:35:41 PM
http://electronics.stackexchange.com/questions/94828/what-is-the-physical-significance-of-the-unit-ampere-meter-in-magnetics
This means that if the cross sectional area A of a ferrite doubles, Magnetic flux also doubles.

Yes,okay,I thank you a lot for this advice !
https://www.khanacademy.org/science/physics/magnetic-forces-and-magnetic-fields/magnetic-field-current-carrying-wire/v/magnetism-6-magnetic-field-due-to-current

This let me remind to an offered image from member GM,timely up to 1 decade before,who showed us that for permanent magnets not the wide or lang is important but the N- or- S-pol active area !

Analogon.

1+1=2

http://gap-power.com/replications-by-others.html               em force + pm force = ........
In the video he demonstrates the power of a magnet's lifting capacity of 6.99 grams. He then demonstrates the lifting capacity of the coil of 21.57 grams.  He then demonstrates the lifting capacity of the combination, magnet and coil, in amplification mode, which is 76.65 grams. My thoughts on this is: ... 6.99 grams + 21.57 grams = 28.56 grams, which is what one would expect the result to be. But no, it was 76.65 grams. 76.65 divided by 28.56 = 2.68 times more power. He then demonstrates neutralization mode and how the magnetic force was completely blocked, with a lifting capacity of 0.0  grams.

There is a push&pull attraction/repulsion force difference

The amplification mode is known as experimental results by the Flynn brothers.
http://www.angelfire.com/ak5/energy21/harwood4.gif
https://web.archive.org/web/20020610043439/http://flynnresearch.net/Software.htm

Here the open/closed permanent magnet path circuit result:
http://www.angelfire.com/ak5/energy21/harwood5.jpg

and here the static or rotoric use:
http://www.angelfire.com/ak5/energy21/harwood10.gif

If there are constructed such devices,in conjunction from electro- and permanent magnets,
which is the amplification mode force effect formula ?

http://www.flynnresearch.net/technology/PPMT%20technology%20white%20paper.pdf
page 5
Low power consumption per unit of force/torque. PPMT devices generate twice the magnetic flux strength and four times the force of an equivalent direct field coil system for the same electrical input.
No  power  consumption for  latches,linear actuators,or  rotary  actuators to  hold  force.
Since  PPMT devices  derive  their  primary  motive  force  from  permanent  magnets  they  hold  with  full  force  during power-off conditions.

The problem what I see: this progress was in a 40 years schedule by known use of material specifications.

WE KNOW NOTHING ABOUT THE USED MATERIALS AND PRODUCTION QUALITIES
OF THE FIGUERA DEVICE




Sincerely
              OCWL

I think there is a reference that Figuera did magic using permanent magnets.

I would guess that he used high voltage and low amperage in primary permanent magnets and oscillatwd them and seconday was soft iron to incemrease induction .

From experiments I do know that higher the input voltage higher tje output. If secondary is placed within NS poles of two permanent magnets output will increase naturally if we give high voltage to primary. Electricity of very mild amount is needed to make it an electronagnet.

The rotary device was probably used to create high voltage sparks and a step up tranformer from secondary continued to provide high voltage to primary.

Violet ray devicesthat are 10 watts provude 50000 volts and very low amps microamps fir healing purposes. The rotary device can easily produce super high voltages from low input.

Thus is a guess but think can work. We need to test.

Regards

Ramaswami

Well you were right Marathonman, it's a complete waste of time.