i just got back from the magnet shop here in town, i was only able to afford small ones but im sure they will be a good start to work with, there about 2cm across and about 1cm thick... i was suprised when i got out of the car they flew out of my hand and stuck to the fender!....there MUCH stronger than i thought they would be, i under stand why your saying they break fingers ....im haveing problems already, i cant even get them apart!, im sure ill work something out tho.

..for now i need to try to build a coil, this will be the hardest part at this point i think, then ill work in getting the circut right,once again i wanna thank you guys for making all this so simple that i can almost understand it LoL.. i dont think i will untill it starts to spin and i can tinker with it tho .

Thats the spirit Borgie. Start off small.

The coil isnt hard to build, I hand wind all my coils, can be a pain for the bigger ones, especially the bifilars but just put a movie on and wind as you watch. Thin double sided tape also helps keep your coil nice and neat. My first coil was made from wire scavenged from an old dropsaw motor, it was a pain to remove  but it was free. Looking back at it now it was pretty dodgy, but it worked and proved a point.

If anyone wants them I have two small single wind ones here that I wont need anymore, I'll be happy to post if you pay. But You'll have to make em sooner or later so have a stab.You cant have any connections , it must be a single piece of wire.

Once you have your coil, connect the ends to the + and - of the battery, it makes it easier if you install a simple switch between the positive of the battery and the coil. Switch on and go pick up some paperclips, switch off and they drop off! Nice.

Then build a simple wheel with good bearings, old computer hard drives are an excellent source, although you'll most likely need to buy some cheap tools to get into them. Theres some good magnets inside them too that you can scavenge.

Once your wheels built mount the coil near it and give it a spin. Try to repell or attract the magnets on the wheel by pressing your switch at just the right time to keep the momentum going. A microswitch will make this easier than say a light switch. This will give you a basic understanding of the forces at play. Oh and if you find that your coil doesnt repell the magnet simply switch the positive and negative to the opposite wires.

Ren , thanks for that simple * how to tinker lesson, and i thnik ill take you up on your coil offer.... i have a couple old HDs , i used to fix and build Pcs as a hobbie and then worked for 10 years troubleshooting anf setting up small net works, nothing big and serious tho,pretty basic easy stuff, this is why i know i can do this motor thingy thing..its just a matter of learning, im really excited about some of the stuff i see around the forums, but im not out fix, solve or creat OU (ill leave that up to the experts) but what im wanting to simply do is have a good little engine create a fair amount of power that i can use like a wall socket........you know plug in a pc and light...surely it cant take that much can it ?( im probly gonna cry if you say it cant be done)....i see two possable ways really(i dont see how yet ,there ideas) ONE: is to hook a gen to it some how, thats kinda my 2nd option tho..what i really want to do .....TWO: is see what all the fuss about this back energy stuff is all about and see if that cant be used..so far ive gotten the ipression that it doesnt seem to be, but  i keep thinking i see ppl store it in caps?( i really have noidea what a cap is or how it can be used, but i keep seeing ppl saying and showing * this much goes in to run it( some small amoount) AND this much comes out and starts chargeing or getting stored up,or something ?,/shrug...so im really going with out a clue and more like, just a thought from what ive seen........just to make a little power is all , not save the world

i really enjoy your guys posts and have really been reading it over and over and over like some one possessed
( and i still dont really get it LoL, but im sure i can given some time, and i love learning stuff like this).

MY next step is the coils, let me know what u find out about postage and Send me a message( i dont check me email that much tho), i cant wait to get all the parts and see it run , feels like xmas is coming hehe ( oh it is! ).

Quote from: tropes on September 11, 2007, 06:08:27 PM

Quote from: allcanadian on September 11, 2007, 05:47:24 PM
Hello
I have a question, where does the excess energy come from to charge the 2nd battery? I was looking at the last circuit nastrand2000 posted and Im not getting this.

Hi ac
Good to have you back. I thought I was the only dumb ass who wasn't getting it.
Peter

Tropes,
I'm not sure there is excess energy coming out of this, what is coming out is a high voltage spike from a collapsing magnetic field. Voltage isnt energy. Volts times Amps is energy (wattage).
Jason

My previous picture is showing how to capture that spike in voltage and store it into a cap (capacitor).
@ Borg,
Even though the voltage is higher then a wall socket, you wont be able to draw power from it like a wall socket. The wall can give around 20 amps at 120 volts. This setup will give 120 volts at .001 amps. So this wont help our energy needs. Again this thread is only to show how to setup a working pulse motor.
Jason