Nice Jase this is excellent work!

I might try running mine on a lower voltage to see how it goes too. I know that the Adams motor group apparaently found harmonies/efficiencies @ 9 volts, it would be interesting to see if it runs differently at different voltages, output vs input wise.

@ Borgie. Dont give up hope. I strongly suggest you look at John Bedini's work in this area. An excellent dvd to see how it fits into a real world applications is the Energy from the Vacuum series (part two has a tour of his workshop).

When you study his diagrams and understand how he harnesses this form of energy you'll have a better understanding of what is achieveable. You could technically build something to power a small device, or large, it depends on how much you know and apply to your design. John has graciously given us many hints, full schematics and a wide variety of different replications to study.

Remember, Google is your friend

by the way borgie what you were suggesting before about efficient motor turning a dynamo/alternator has been done, and it seems to work very well.  The late Bill Muller built/designed some of these rv's (roto verters or something).

http://freeenergynews.com/Directory/Inventors/BillMuller/index.html <- this is a great network for lots of information.

Check out Bills machine. 38 amps in 400 amps out. Not even running all the coils. If thats no ou I dont know what is.

My understanding is that it is all in the design of the coils and cores. Special amorphous cores are used for minimum drag. I read somewhere that you could turn the rotor by hand easily. It is a fine art thats for sure. Jim Watson along with John Bedini built some motors that were similar to this in my opinon. In the '80s they built these "bucking Generators" which apparaently ran faster/drew less amps under load.

http://www.rexresearch.com/bedini/bedini.htm <- I have a better link to it somewhere.

My understanding was that for example.

1 12 volt permanent magnet motor turns a shaft with an alternator/pulse motor on the other end. There is a heavy flywheel in between to help keep up momentum. Power is applied to pmm (permanent magnet motor) to start and get up to speed. Once speed reached power is pulsed say 20% to that motor while power is pulsed/generated on alternator end. Gravity helps cover the difference.

Just out of interest my wheel can easily turn small magnet motors. I had one making 9 volts without any noticeable effect to the motor. I have seen little hobby motors intended for small toy windmills. Because they are actual functioning models the motors need to be as frictionless (reffered to as cogging) as possible to produce anything worth while. I saw one in the store which was max rated 10 volts 1 amp.


Theres alot of stuff there sorry, I was bored at work. Go over all the links though, some very useful information.

also this page.

http://www.linux-host.org/energie/adamsmotorguide.htm

Quote from nastrand2000

QuoteI'm not sure there is excess energy coming out of this, what is coming out is a high voltage spike from a collapsing magnetic field. Voltage isnt energy. Volts times Amps is energy (wattage).
Jason

Ahhh, now were getting to the heart of the matter, voltage(potential difference) times amps(current flow) = wattage(energy). So we have no real energy in a 12 volt car battery because while we can measure potential difference as voltage across it's terminals, we have no current flow in it without a closed circuit. That doesn't sound right, the battery has lots of energy in it without any current flowing, potential energy just sitting there. So energy capacity might be nothing more than the ability of a voltage source to maintain it's voltage dispite being discharged by current flow. If the voltage never dropped in a battery or a capacitor how can it be discharged? Voltage is the electrical "pressure" that drives the electric current "flow", no pressure no flow. If we could somehow put volts into a battery but no amps then the battery could never discharge itself because the voltage "pressure" would never drop, we would not need energy (wattage) to do this because as nastrand2000 said "Voltage isn't energy". I wonder how we could do this? a negative discharge into the positive terminal of the battery? A positive charge and a negative discharge are opposite conditions but what if the negative discharge was forced to move in the opposite direction? towards the positive terminal of a battery-- what is it then?
Questions and more questions, all we have are questions

Quote from: allcanadian on September 12, 2007, 01:52:37 PM
If we could somehow put volts into a battery but no amps then the battery could never discharge itself because the voltage "pressure" would never drop, we would not need energy (wattage) to do this because as nastrand2000 said "Voltage isn't energy". I wonder how we could do this? a negative discharge into the positive terminal of the battery? A positive charge and a negative discharge are opposite conditions but what if the negative discharge was forced to move in the opposite direction? towards the positive terminal of a battery-- what is it then?
Questions and more questions, all we have are questions

ac
Here is my question: Can a motor/generator be built that creates enough energy to charge a secondary power source (capacitor/ battery) so this 2nd power source can be used to power the motor/generator, and this process repeated?
Questions and more questions.
Peter