Quote from: Erfinder on November 01, 2016, 06:19:44 AM

Energy is transferred between storage mechanism in motors and generators.....energy is not being transformed.  Motors and generators are not transformers, they are devices which facilitate the processing of magneto-dielectric potentialities.

Really

Then i challenge you to take a liter of gasoline,and 1000 cubic meters of air,and make a 100 watt light bulb light for 10 minutes-->without any sort of transformation of the stored energy within the gasoline.

When you have done this,then you may come back and say there was no transformation of energy.

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The first law of thermodynamics, also known as Law of Conservation of Energy, states that energy can neither be created nor destroyed; energy can only be transferred or changed from one form to another. For example, turning on a light would seem to produce energy; however, it is electrical energy that is converted.

Transform-make a marked change in the form, nature, or appearance of
Change (a mathematical entity) by transformation
A process by which one figure, expression, or function is converted into another one of similar value.
Convert-change the form, character, or function of something.
Brad

If you really want to see what's going on with energy then I think you need to investigate IF the input energy to the motor, generator or even transformer is really consumed or maybe is dissipated into environment ?

Quote from: Erfinder on November 01, 2016, 07:13:16 AM

Fascinating watching you struggle with the concept.  Fascinating watching you grab at straws, resorting to change the channel rather than face the reality that you still have yet to perceive.  You have indicated that you hold to what you stated....Do that and stagnate, it's your business.  I make it my business to see what is and has been right in front of us the entire time, namely, that "energy" a poorly defined term, is a placeholder for something whose quality cannot be quantified.  It is an expression of pure ignorance on our part as we associate quantity on the unqualifiable..... 


Your inability to consider things from this perspective literally stops you from comprehending that it is through charging and discharging the storage mechanism that work is done.  Here you will find Nature standing ready to slam the door in your face yet again, as the term work as it is  used here has nothing to do with what you think it does.  Only one form of work is ever done, find it, and we will be on the same page.  I have very little faith in your ability to find it...

I asked only one thing from you--show the stored energy within the gasoline lighting an electrical light bulb-without transforming the stored energy(chemical energy) within the gasoline,into electrical energy-but as always,you will fail to do so-you will fail to show chemical energy running that light bulb,without transforming that chemical energy into electromagnetic energy.

QuoteI have very little faith in your ability to find it

Odd coming from some one that has shown nothing to date on this thread.
Lots of words,but nothing to show,and nothing has been learnt from those here from you,even after pages of talk.

You are as you have always been--a talker of nothingness.

Another 20 pages will go on,and those here will still have learnt nothing from you.

As one of your adversaries once said-every action has an equal and opposite reaction-->and a counter reaction.
Once you understand this,you(and maybe even your fellow army members)will stop making bathroom heater's,and move onto something that will result in the desired effect.

You seem to think you know far more than others here(including myself),but yet you steer clear of any challenge presented to you.
So i offer up another challenge--a chance for you to see what i have been up to.

The challenge is very simple,and very cheap to produce.
Using only copper,bismuth,steel(as a core material),a permanent magnet,and small solar panel,you are to get a small LED to light,while the solar panel is void/shielded of any light(in complete darkness).The LED is to remain lit for an ongoing amount of time(remains lit until disconnected from the circuit). You may also use a small boost converter to step up the voltage to drive the LED if need be.

The LED,boost converter,and solar panel can be had from a $2.00 garden light,and im sure you could come up with a small copper sheet,bismuth sheet,and steel laminated core.

No batteries are to be used,light is not to be used to provide energy by way of the solar panel.
The only energy source that can be used,is the permanent magnet  .

So lets see how much you do know about energy and magnetic fields.

I do however feel that this is far beyond your pay grade,and the challenge will once again not be answered. In stead,we will continue to see pages of words from you,that helps no one here--as has been the case so far.


Brad

Quote from: Erfinder on November 01, 2016, 08:17:01 AM

This from a guy who knows absolutely nothing at all, a wannabe who continues to lead his following on wild goose chase, after wild goose chase, a guy who has a packed video library of his greatest failures on the road to nowhere.  I am not intersted in your stupid off subject challenges.  Do something useful, show your following how smart you are, what I showed em.

What did you show them?
What have they learned from you?
How many here,after countless pages of post,know what you are talking about?

QuoteI am not intersted in your stupid off subject challenges

My challenges are dead on subject--a lenz free generator.
It is also based around what you deem to know so well--the electric and magnetic fields interactions.

By the way,you spelt interested wrong.
Spell check perhaps ? 


Brad

Quote from: webby1 on November 01, 2016, 09:32:41 AM
Energy is a yardstick,, think about what it is describing.

To have energy you must have a gradient of some kind, you must also have something that can interact with that gradient and that item must be able to have caused a change by moving through that gradient.

   

This points out that Energy is a specific observation.

QuoteA large bucket (large enough to hold the air and gasoline) on a long string with a long ways to drop,, no chemical transformation needed.

And how dose this provide the electrical energy required to light the light?.
Are you suggesting that the falling/dropping bucket holding the fuel ,will turn a generator that provides the required electrical energy to light the light?
If that is the case,then you are now transforming gravitational energy into electrical energy.
You would also then have to explain as to how the bucket was lifted to the dropping height?
Was it mechanical energy that was used to raise the bucket?
Once the bucket reached it's desired height,and came to rest,it then became potential energy.

The list go's on,there must be a transformation of energy-a conversion,a change,to achieve the desired effect/desired energy--no mater how you try to do it.

Even the humble solar panel is a transformer.
It transforms kinetic energy into electrical energy 


Brad