Quote from: allcanadian on November 13, 2016, 06:09:08 PM
@IronI am not blaming you for your nature any more than I blame myself for mine, we own it. I'm just saying I think I understand human nature well enough from what I have observed to know some things are better left unsaid and undone.
I make observations, I have thoughts and sometimes I share my thoughts. I started with a question we all ask ourselves at some point...why is this not working for me?. What I found was that thing which was not working was ... me. My attitude, my motivation, the way I approach problems, all those pre-conceived notions I carry with me and a complete lack of clarity. I am not the one to help you find your answers my friend because you know yourself better than me.

AC

Not a problem AC, us canucks need to stick together. was just bad timing on your part.


I had come from the Matt/Dave scene (120 watts in and 800 watts out --- but I am not telling you) to take part in erfinders game of guess what I thought of? So you can imagine my existing level of frustration when you came on forum to say that you had overunity but where not going to tell us, LOL


Ron

Quote from: Erfinder on November 14, 2016, 04:54:10 AM

Mags,


I mean you no disrespect, please, try and understand that if I was offering what you think you know, I would be wasting both of our time.  Instead of considering what I gave you, you cheat yourself and find the same circuit in a simplified format.  Good luck finding what I am suggesting with that version of the circuit.


The application as presented in the documents is WINDOW DRESSING!  Open your eyes people, open your freakin minds.  See what is right in front of you.

Sometimes Teslas stuff is hard for people to comprehend the circuitry, at least, so the Igniter pat gives a more clear idea of what at least half of the circuit looks like.

We have been looking at these patents for some years now. Supposedly Tito sees what your talking about. But you guys are the only ones that I know of that claim they see it. So if we think a bit, there are many, many, that dont see it. Some have it and many dont for some reason.

Like do we have to build it as shown to see what we should see?

If i had it guys, Id blow it all out there so the many blind can see also. But I dont. Looks like we may be here for a few more years pondering I suppose.

Mags

@Iron

QuoteI had come from the Matt/Dave scene (120 watts in and 800 watts out --- but I am not telling you) to take part in erfinders game of guess what I thought of? So you can imagine my existing level of frustration when you came on forum to say that you had overunity but where not going to tell us, LOL

I hear you and I have followed more wild goose chases over the years than I would care to mention.

Personally I never had much success until I stopped following others and started doing my own thing. Do you know what the secret is?, it all starts with the concept. Look at Tesla, he imagined a rotating magnetic field and this single concept in itself helped drive an industrial revolution and create most of the power systems we use today. This is how the process of invention works, it starts with curiosity concerning a very simple concept like a rotating magnetic field and then we build upon this until it becomes something practical.

Look at what others do, they talk about coils of wires and magnetic fields and switching and weird transformers and equations and literature and diagrams but almost none have a solid concept to build on. For example one of my initial concepts was that if we charge two plates of a capacitor and one plate should suddenly cease to exist then the voltage on the other plate should instantly rise to a level few can imagine. It is a very simple concept... one plate simply appears to disappear and it does not matter how this change occurs only that it does. Then we take this simple concept and we expand upon it, what is a capacitor, how does it work and how do we make one plate perceive that the other plate is not there anymore. We are only limited by our imagination how we might do this however if we do not have the concept to build on then we have nothing.

To be honest I would say to hell with everyone here especially myself and pursue some thing you find interesting. Your success is not dependent on us it is dependent on you and your curiosity and your inspiration wherever you may find it. For me the process is always the same and it starts with... what is that, how does it work, what if I did this, or what if I did this instead, what would happen?.

AC

@Tinman

QuoteHate to say it(ok,i dont hate to say it ),but i told you so.
Like i stated 80 pages back--same old- same old.
And in another 82 pages,there will still be a void of educational material--but lots of bathroom heaters.

Have you ever built Tesla's hairpin circuit?, it was the initial device which his therapeutic patents were based on. I cannot think of a better learning tool because it and other variations taught me many things most people cannot seem to wrap their mind around. You see a person could literally send hundreds of watts of power down conductors almost as small as a human hair to power a light bulb and the conductors never get hot...no bathroom heaters. You can grab the conductors and feel only a slight tingle and immerse the lit bulb under water and nothing seems to happen. It is completely counter-intuitive to what most expect and most people have real problems with it.

Do you know what the most surprising part was?, I could show this rather simple device to almost any of the experts I know and not a single one of them believed it initially. All believed it was some kind of trick or hoax and it was only after I explained the working principal that they believed it was real. Even more strange was that nobody and I do mean nobody clued into the most important aspect of the demonstration right in front of them. The very small conductors were carrying real power with almost no dissipation of energy which is about as close to a super conductor as we are most likely to find. The beginning of a truly lossless system only requiring the slightest of impetus to push it over into the realm of a free energy generator.

Did you learn something?.

AC

"losless" is wrong defined,who knows the energy input difference to reach N1,N2,N... material and system quality to get a over-1 gain result quantity is in search for a "lossarm" circuit concept !

Outer balancing 51:49 up to 79:21 Fleming/Lenz
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