There is a reason that I posed the questions about this coil.  Here is the issue:  Threads that go on and on where people delude themselves into believing that they are accomplishing something or doing something significant or making headway into unknown territory.  So nobody stops and says, "What are we doing, what is the end game?"  People are petrified to ask the pretty self-evident questions.

Look at the nonsensical RomeroUK pulse motor.  He claimed his pick-up coils passing through FWBRs where regeneratively powering the motor.  A crazy frenzy ensued but not a single person asked him to scope the common output of all of the FWBRs that was supposedly self-powering the motor.  Then it was found that he was hot-wiring power into the common output of all of the FWBRs.  Look at the "resonant Joule Thief."  That went nowhere, it died.  I pointed out that resonance has absolutely nothing to do with a Joule Thief and the whole concept didn't even make sense.  Look at the ridiculous Bedini windmill pulse motor.  All these people at the conference were in awe at this big slowly rotating windmill.  I asked the questions, "What does it do?" and "What is it for?" and not a single person could answer.  The answer is that it did nothing and they tried to sell it and I think in the end they sold if for scrap metal.

So there is a perfectly valid reason to ask about the Tesla series bifilar pancake coil.  In the patent it clearly states that it is for power factor correction but apparently people want to ignore that.  It's the usual hunt for magic beans without even asking yourselves what this thing is for and what practical uses there are for it.  It takes you out of your Tesla ASMR buzz and asks you for real meaning and real substance.

You think you have some kind of "outside the box" answer?  Then go ahead and state what it is.

Right now all that we have are crickets chirping and the usual Tesla tingles.  The problem is that you can't do a single damn thing with crickets chirping or Tesla tingles.  And I am predicting with high confidence that there are not going to be any answers.  The bottom line is the patent is just a curiosity.  It may have looked interesting at the time, but nothing ever came of it.  It's just one of tens of millions of patents that went nowhere.

And the funny thing is I am sure that there are hard-core Tesla fanatics that are very offended by what I am saying because they think that the Tesla series bifilar pancake coil is the key to some magical free energy device if we only could figure it out.  And I know from experience that 95% of the hardcore Tesla fanatics don't even understand how a coil works.

So my questions stand, and I am not expecting them to be answered in this thread.  And that means my answers to the questions are the true answers.  And the smart ones would then simply move on and get past the fetish over this patent.

Quote from: nelsonrochaa on April 22, 2017, 02:20:16 PM

To me what does not make sense is you think that i don't know what is the difference between a transformer with iron core and ferrite core .
Are you trying to ridicule me? Hope not because seems to me very poor attempt on your part, and if you don't want answer what i ask it's ok to me, but don't fall in the ridicule of try teach something so basic like you did about the transformers theme .
Get some sun man .

Nelson Rocha

No, I had every reason to believe that you did not think about the issues I discussed.  You have not shown any practical use for a Tesla series bifilar pancake coil because using it to make a transformer for power transfer is not realistic and there are better ways to do that.

Quote from: Erfinder on April 22, 2017, 03:12:00 PM

You bash before you comprehend.....all public discussion stops and you claim a victory....you have no idea...you might want to revisit, on second thought...they don't make glasses strong enough to correct your piss poor eyesight.....

You have run out of gas Erfinder, it's just a joke at this point in time.  My eyesight is way better than yours and I understood that fake pulse motor.  Who says public discussion stops?  Stop paying the butt-hurt guy that whines all the time.  This thread is an open canvas for you to share something.  However, you are the little boy that cried wolf all the time and there is no substance.  Why is the sky blue?  There is a real answer to that question, and not some endless series of proddings to get your audience to think outside of the box.  What is blue?  What does it mean to see?  Are we really "seeing" or is it just nerve impulses firing?  Is it really blue, bla bla bla.

The canvas is open for you to actually say something of substance.

Something like this:  No matter what your excitation of the coil or what frequencies you use or what waveform you use, the coil is a passive energy storage device where energy is mostly stored in the magnetic field and some of the energy can potentially be stored in an electric field.  Some energy is also lost through resistance.  For all practical intents and purposes, the coil is just a rag doll that you excite and then observe how it responds.  You can shake the rag doll, spin the rag doll, or hit the rag doll, and in the final analysis it will always be a passive rag doll.

The canvas is open for you.

Quote from: webby1 on April 22, 2017, 03:34:50 PM
If you have not noticed it really is not so much about the patent,, it is about the coil and what happens with that coil OTHER than what the standard view expects.

And we are still waiting for the tiniest little smidgen of evidence that that is even remotely true.

Quote from: MileHigh on April 22, 2017, 03:11:28 PM
No, I had every reason to believe that you did not think about the issues I discussed.  You have not shown any practical use for a Tesla series bifilar pancake coil because using it to make a transformer for power transfer is not realistic and there are better ways to do that.

What you mean when you say that is not a realistic approach make a transformer to power transfer ?
Did you already try it ? Did you know any report where that was tested to you have sure about that ?
Point me please , because i will like read to compare with what i observed .

thanks