Quote from: nelsonrochaa on April 23, 2017, 10:41:45 AM
I just give you a example how that pancake coils could be used to transfer electric power in a efficient way  without ferrite or iron core like normal transformer use, contrary to what you defend until now and i respect that

Why i should get mad with you ? You are a nice person even we have so high differences in how you are in life, and how we treat other persons .

You could make an air-core transformer based on two adjacent solenoid coils for your experiment and they would easily outperform you air-core pancake coil transformer.  Therefore the air-core solenoid transformer would be more efficient than your air-core pancake coil transformer.

Do you understand why this would be the case?  The geometry of a pancake coil is no good for making an air-core transformer.

Don't try dropping your "how we treat other persons" comment on me.  Look at your own behaviour and how you treated me when you first started talking to me.  I am speaking honestly and openly about the pancake coil, and that does NOT make me a "bad guy."  This nonsense needs to stop.  Do you know the English expression, "Don't shoot the messenger?"  I am pretty sure you have the same expression or an equivalent expression in German.

We are still looking for a valid reason to use a Tesla bifilar pancake coil and so far there is none.  And saying that does not make me a bad guy.

Quote from: web000x on April 23, 2017, 10:54:57 AM

Well, seeing that the bifilar coil engenders a situation of mutual induction, mutual capacity,(MK) self induction, and self capacity,(LC) it would seem like it has all of the requirements for Dollard's four quadrant theory of electricity.   I feel the idea of further investigation should not be dismissed as I've seen things with my own eyes that show that the MK form of propagation does not behave the same as the LC.  Not to mention that I was privy to a few skype conversations with Erfinder. No matter how many times you tell us there is nothing to the bifilar coil, I will never forget my experiences and will continue investigation.

Dave

Well I can't comment on anything Eric Dollard has to say.  What I can say is that "four quadrants" with respect to electrical concepts is actually common terminology.  You often talk about the four-quadrant output capabilities of an an amplifier, as an example.  We often deal with polar coordinates when discussing electronic circuits and four quadrants come into play there also.  Then there is the "S Plane" for transfer function analysis of a circuit and that also has four quadrants.

I am still waiting for Erfinder to say something of substance from my perspective.  Or call it "the establishment" perspective.  You know, like that thing called the "electronics industry" and if you take the wide definition of that term it is the largest industry on the face of the Earth.

"You could make an air-core transformer based on two adjacent solenoid coils for your experiment and they would easily outperform you air-core pancake coil transformer.  Therefore the air-core solenoid transformer would be more efficient than your air-core pancake coil transformer."

Did you think i did not make that test already ?


"Do you understand why this would be the case?  The geometry of a pancake coil is no good for making an air-core transformer."

That apply if you think in a Magnetic coupling not in a capacitive coupling way.


"Don't try dropping your "how we treat other persons" comment on me.  Look at your own behavior and how you treated me when you first started talking to me.  I am speaking honestly and openly about the pancake coil, and that does NOT make me a "bad guy."  This nonsense needs to stop.  Do you know the English expression, "Don't shoot the messenger?"  I am pretty sure you have the same expression or an equivalent expression in German."

I never was disrespectful to you ,and i never talk that you are a bad person, myself believe that  people could change to better persons with time and with life experience , but sometimes you could be a bit hard with some judges that you made in relation to work of some persons , and that is not about the ability to judge, but with the ability to respect others , and sometimes you simple forget that . For sure you can not use your prominent intelligence to support such behaviors .

I will say again :

I respect you opinions and i'm not promote anything against's you or anyone .
Just to clear , im not German i'm Portuguese even i need work in German most of the times because nature of my work , and i will never follow that expression ""Don't shoot the messenger"
because i enjoy have a good life and meet people   and i do not I waste energy on something I do not consider productive.

Enjoy the day

Nelson Rocha

Quote from: nelsonrochaa on April 23, 2017, 11:37:28 AM
I never was disrespectful to you ,and i never talk that you are a bad person, myself believe that  people could change to better persons with time and with life experience , but sometimes you could be a bit hard with some judges that you made in relation to work of some persons , and that is not about the ability to judge, but with the ability to respect others , and sometimes you simple forget that . For sure you can not use your prominent intelligence to support such behaviors .

You were incredibly disrespectful towards me, in fact you were abusive towards me.  You have to learn to speak the truth, even if English is not your first language.  No BS, speak the truth.

I do not "forget about respecting others."  I simply speak the truth about the technical issues that I am interested in and that gets twisted by people with fragile egos into me supposedly being a bad or insensitive person.

Stop trying all the time to be manipulative in your comments with all sorts of fake character assassination.  Just talk your technical stuff and leave it at that.  The truth:  You have not shown that Tesla series bifilar pancake coils have any practical uses or applications.  That is where we are right now in the technical discussion.  We are still trying to find an actual legitimate use for a Tesla series bifilar coil and so far there is none.  Speak the truth.

Quote from: MileHigh on April 23, 2017, 11:54:34 AM
You were incredibly disrespectful towards me, in fact you were abusive towards me.  You have to learn to speak the truth, even if English is not your first language.  No BS, speak the truth.

I do not "forget about respecting others."  I simply speak the truth about the technical issues that I am interested in and that gets twisted by people with fragile egos into me supposedly being a bad or insensitive person.

Stop trying all the time to be manipulative in your comments with all sorts of fake character assassination.  Just talk your technical stuff and leave it at that.  The truth:  You have not shown that Tesla pancake coils have any practical uses or applications.  That is where we are right now in the technical discussion.  We are still trying to find an actual legitimate use for a Tesla series bifilar coil and so far there is none.  Speak the truth.

Did you think i'm incredibly disrespectful towards to you ?? Abusive ?? Really sorry if i make you feel in that way.
You already know the solution : ignore me . I think is available that option in this forum .
Have a nice day

Nelson Rocha