Quote from: citfta on October 20, 2017, 05:31:18 PM
Hi Mags,

I'll try to take a guess at your last question as to why a motor is different from a large inductor.  Erfinder can correct me if I am wrong.  If you disconnect power from a DC motor while it is still spinning what does it become?

Carroll

Not sure that is the case. Would it 'generate' HV for the cap charge?  Not sure about anything I suppose....

Mags

Quote from: Jeg on October 20, 2017, 06:28:51 PM
In the same spirit i would say that motor has a comutator. When switch opens, motor coils provide multiple "currents with great electromotive force." Inductor alone will give only one.

Not too sure there either.

Mags

Quote from: Erfinder on October 20, 2017, 02:01:22 PM
I am going to pretend that Wattsup isn't here....nothing he has presented thus far will get you anywhere.... don't take my word for it, ask him to demonstrate his understanding of the patent...  I can not only demonstrate the patent as presented, I can demonstrate it as it was meant to be, I already have....while you were sleeping.... 


I can appreciate the benefit of exchanging with one of so many words, and will stand on the sideline and watch the discussion which takes place between the two of you lead to nowhere....  I will interject my two cent when I feel it necessary. 




So that its clear....I do not agree with this.....



UH....WTF?!?


When the switch closes, it, the switch, places the motor across the supply, simultaneously, it places the cap across the primary....  focus..... we are looking at two circuits during the instance of switch closure, the motor and supply representing one circuit, and the cap and primary representing the other, the switch (controller) being common to both.


The motor and primary become a "functioning series circuit" when the switch opens, when the now empty capacitor is allowed to complete the circuit to the supply through the series connected primary and motor. 


I have tried to paint the significance of this picture time and time again, but am constantly opposed by those whom I am positive have yet to truly immerse, and lose themselves (literally) within this subject.


When the switch opens allowing the cap to charge to the supply potential, the current, manifesting out of opposition to change in voltage, moves through the serial connected motor and primary, causing the motor to rotate, and exciting the primary.  The fact that both motor and primary are excited during the cap charging cycle is overlooked by all!  Another overlooked aspect, the cap charging current is not motivated entirely by the supply potential, it is motivated by the induced potential generated by the collapsing field of the coil. This "mixing" of energies, (for lack of a more descriptive way of formulating it)  how and when it is to be accomplished, and through which circuit(s) it is to propagate through is one of the primary lessons taught by this patent. 


I hope you read this and it clicks...I hope you read this and realize how mistaken you are in thinking that you can perform the tasks which need to be performed without the motor....


Regards

Lol Im just not with it today or something is whack..  In your post above you quoted me but I cant find the post you quoted me from to look at the whole thing.  looked over the pages of today, of which the quote is dated oct 20 but I dont see it.. Do you?   I didnt delete any and looking in 'My Posts' list I can not find the "hey Forest" post..

Got a cust here at my shop..  Ill see if I can get it in a bit.  30min trying to find it and it doesnt seem to exist now.  I click on the link above what you quoted me and it should have taken me to my post. Now I have to say WTF!!! never had this prob before

Mags

Im a bit PO'ed.  Where is my post?  I just tried to click a link above another 'quote' from Watts and it takes me to that post. When I click on mine in your post it goes to my profile.  its not there..   Er  do you save posts? Like do you have that post of mine on record?  Some people do, just thinking. I want to see the whole content of what I said and I cant.

Mags

Does this thread have a moderator?  if so Id like to know if and or why it was removed. I do not believe there was anything bad enough in any of my posts that it should have been removed.

I am moderator of the resonance circuits and devices topics only.  I can remove posts there. Here I can only do what anyone can do, edit my post to 1 character, as it wont let you delete the post fully, and the post should still be up, but it is not.