Very true about the electrical steel. we are also in a non existent field that has no information anywhere other that what mr D, i or we have proved on the bench. the inductor of part G has everyone so crossed up like no tomorrow just because it is used outside of present day usage of dogma taught science and Physics that uses it as a static device unlike Figuera that brought it to an active device.
it is quite amazing how closed minded people are but not just that, they are not willing to step out of the box and test it. it is simple, wind a coil on a core and test the inductance with a positive brush, move the contact and test again. guess what the inductance just changed, so if it just changed why would you or any one else not think it can't do it on a continuous basis as the brush rotates is beyond me.

self inductance is the magnetic linking to the circuit, the ratio of Flux (magnetic field)  per the amount of currant. if one was to increase the magnetic field with the same amount of currant guess what, the currant is reduced. so does the opposite if the magnetic field is reduced the ratio of magnetic field is reduced also thus more currant will flow. just like i have stated so many times it is constantly changing the ratio of flux (magnetic field) to the amount of currant which is self inductance,  the reverse emf to the original currant flow. the only thing part G does is change this ratio on a continuous basis and this is what has everyone so crossed up even though it has been proven a few time they still deny it took place.
Part G is no doubt in my mind an inductor that changes the ratio of magnetic field per the amount of currant as the positive brush contact rotates.
whether anyone chooses to believe this or not still does not change the facts and Physics involved.

sounds like you have a good plan Sam, i just hope you have success with those electronics and good to have you here.

Marathonman

MM

Please! Can you make a  Figuera schematic with coil winding instructions for the part G with two bruches + and - ( the feed back option) and the N, S coils.
You mentioned that you used 80 turns on a toroid? How big? What ferrite material.  How many mHenrys between N and S? (or similar). How many mHenrys in the N,S coils and core type?

And show me whitch pic (first or second)  I should use when I'm starting to wind my part G.

Regards Arne

Seaad;

the top pic i have no clue as to origin, the bottom pic was just used for illustration purposes only to convey a point.
my part G consists of three toroidal core #70 from Bridgeport magnetic's resined together, Doug used a 100 amp alternator core wrapped over to make uniform then wound with as close as i can figure 100 winds.
the adjustable brackets i posted last week or so are used to move the contacts around to get balance of the primaries peak to peak as they have to be the same or induction will fall to that of the rising electromagnet.
i am also experiencing the balancing issue that was reported to me from the same and my core is not on my premises at the moment as i have a friend working on the balancing issue for me so i can not take the readings at this time.
i am also working on another core type that is closed core but have just received it yesterday and have not wound it or finished my custom adjustable brush holder.

as for the specifics on MHenrys of  either cores i do not have final specs on them as that was not my specific goal at the time as i was generally concentrating on getting the proper magnetic field pressures of my primaries and not saturating either. i can post those findings in the future when i get to the point where i have time, i have no problem with that and will share all i have.

as for the winding of part G i am using CW on the ring core started in the middle of the core not the ends where the slider contacts are,  to give me N><N at the brush that keeps both sides of the brush inductor separate. the C core i will be winding it is also CW to get the same N><N at the brush. yes i have two types of Part G cores i am using which one will be most easy to balance then the other. the C core i have started with 80 winds also and will remove some if need be for proper balancing. my core are in fact deeper than that of Mr Doug so therefore i will require less winding's to get the proper currant reduction.

i have spent most of my time benching everything that was presented to me proving the validity of and i am putting the system together as we speak to in the very near future you will have all that i have acquired in my research as i have never held anything back, well em mostly.

when i get the new core wound i plan on making a video with two 100 watt bulbs being raised and lowered in complete unison as the brush rotates completely defusing all doubt of the validity of part G and it's inductive origin.
i will enjoy that immensely.
I have a little  more at Hyiq but fore warned any trouble and it's cut ville for the problem maker as Chris and the crew will not stand for it. i simply love it.
i had no schematic for which to go by only information that was passed to me . life doesn't always give you a schematic in which to go by so just think of what i had to do, the research and bench work to get to where i am now, i am seeing the fruit of my labor finally.

Marathonman

Building to unknown specs.
Another thing i would like to talk about is deciding on the amount of output. once the amount of output has been decided for your project that output can be divided between how ever many core you want. it takes 14.8 lbs pressure PSI for every kilowatt of power at around 33,000 line PSI so that can be divided between how ever many cores or pressure you feel comfortable in dealing with.

hypothetically lets say you want 15 kilowatts output. divide that by how ever many secondary cores you want or the pressures you feel comfortable in dealing with. lets say we want 12 core sets, 15 kilowatts divided by 12 cores is 1250 watts per secondary core.

so the output has been decided at 15 kilowatts. that equals 222 lbs pressure between the primaries. if it was one set then the size of the cores would be very huge plus the pressure is quite high between them and could potentially be dangerous. that pressure can be divided between many other core with a pressure you feel comfortable in dealing with. so we have 12 core sets, that is 222 divided by 12 = 18.5 lbs pressure per core set between the primaries. since each primary is accountable for half of that output each primary needs to have 9.25 lbs of force. that is per square inch.

always remember to start with the secondary and work your way back. the secondary core size must be able to handle the output you are trying to achieve. so from the above scenario each secondary is accountable for 1250 watts. and remember it must be able to handle this with no distortion (saturation)  so leave a little headroom. then you match the primary to the secondary output you need. so as you see from above the primaries in order to achieve a 1250 watt output from the secondary they needs to have 9.25 lbs force from each primary.

also remember the primaries are not controlling the currant flow, that is the job of part G so they are to be would specifically as electromagnets which is NOT according to present day teaching. the secondary on the other hand IS wound according to present day teachings as any standard present day generator output would be.

another thing to remember is the size of the wire in part G. since part G will become the power supply once the starting power is removed, it must be able to handle the power requirements with ease and the less resistance the better as less resistance equates to less losses. with any power supply the sum of all the lower parts add up to the final load plus headroom. part G is no exception and this must be considered when building. please also remember the core of part G must be able to handle the load plus headroom. each half of the system considered separately.

the secondaries can be series or paralleled to attain the desired currant and voltage you are so seeking. also the use of laminated core material is highly recommended. since there will be considerable amount of mathematical calculation when dealing with foreign core material,  it is best to use material that has known output for the amount of material used. manufacture can usually provide these calculation to ease this burden which equates to a specific output per lb of core material. the secondaries can then be calculated from these figures then the primaries from that.

always leave headroom in all core as saturation is the enemy and will kill the device..
these are just general guidelines to go by as each built will be slightly different and final specs will be up to the builder.



Marathonman

Quote from: marathonman on May 16, 2018, 12:39:49 PM
Seaad;

the top pic i have no clue as to origin, the bottom pic was just used for illustration purposes only to convey a point.
my part G consists of three toroidal core #70 from Bridgeport magnetic's resined together,

when i get the new core wound i plan on making a video with two 100 watt bulbs being raised and lowered in complete unison as the brush rotates completely defusing all doubt of the validity of part G and it's inductive origin.
i will enjoy that immensely.
I have a little  more at Hyiq but fore warned any trouble and it's cut ville for the problem maker as Chris and the crew will not stand for it. i simply love it.
i had no schematic for which to go by only information that was passed to me . life doesn't always give you a schematic in which to go by so just think of what i had to do, the research and bench work to get to where i am now, i am seeing the fruit of my labor finally.

Marathonman

MM you are a master person to avoid a simple question.
I am asking if the winding of the part G toroid core is continuous  (second pic). Or if the winding in the first half of the toroid is in One Direction and then the rest in the opposite direction. My two pics.

Your answes are;
'' the top pic i have no clue as to origin,
the bottom pic was just used for illustration purposes only to convey a point.''

My understanding of that is ; not a valid pic or winding principle AND not a valid pic or winding principle.

I estimates that your winding principle you are goingng to use is;

A clockwise (CW) continous winding around the whole toroid untill the start an stop ends of the wire meets. The both ends will then be electrically connected with each other.

You only have to answer; YES, right wiring principle  or NO, not right wiring principle to that.

And the core you are going touse is the same as in the pic.


" I had no schematic for which to go by only information that was passed to me . life doesn't always give you a schematic in which to go by so just think of what i had to do, the research and bench work to get to where i am now "

Where are you now?? Does your unit work today with OU??

Regards Arne