Quote from a researcher;
"Energy In is never ever in a billion years going to magically Create more Energy Out!"

EXACTLY, and well put. people still seem to think that they are to build the Figuera device without part G's inductance adding to the system reusing the potential from the magnetic to the electric.

I'm sorry but this is not ever, ever, ever going to happen if you have to supply all the power to the primaries all the time. standard generators do not operate like this and neither does any device i know of, nature does not operate like this.

in a standard generator the primary exciters once up to working conditions, the power draw is reduced to just the IR2 losses to maintain the field. if the power had to be replace all the time a standard generator would no work the way it does. it brings in energy from outside the system and takes time to acquire the proper pressure needed in the system to maintain the load. it does this over time taking some of the output to feed back to the exciters until there is enough pressure in the system for the exciters and the load.

It is still quite obvious people still do not grasp the way a generator works and if you think you are going to build the Figuera device without part G you are in for a very expensive surprise and should prepare yourselves for an unwanted outcome.
Generators generate over time not instantly, that is why when a load is drawing more than supplied it causes the resistance to drop in the external load causing more current to flow thus return more current to the exciters to produce a more intense field to produce more output then the exciters and the load combined. electricity is a pressure system and it takes time to build up the pressure in mans systems to operate our machinery.
Physics do not tell a lie when it comes to our world we live in only our incorrect assumption of our observations and senses which generally do not coincide with reality.
Regards,

Marathonman

Try this analogy and apply it to your energy devices. try blowing up a balloon instantly and tell me what happens. yes, the balloon will indeed pop. now blow it up slower and see how large the balloon gets as it stretches to accommodate the increasing pressure.

try hitting mans electric devices with instant power and stand back watching the sparks fly because that is what will happen. since electricity is a form of pressure it takes time to build up the pressure in an electric system. no generator in the world can instantly provide you with a massive amount of pressure sorry this will never happen.
in a standard generator it takes time for the pressure to equalize in the system. when the load increases the resistance falls on the external part of the system causing more currant to flow which intern sends more currant to the AVR then to the exciters to produce a more intense field to equalize the pressure of the external load and the exciters combined. it does this over a period of time even though it may seem to you it is instant in reality it is not.

the primary exciters are increased as the electric pressures in the system fluctuate due to the load. if the load requires more pressure the intensity of the exciters will be increase to the point of system equalization as the pressure in the system can handle the load and the exciters combined. all this pressure equalizations happen over time and never instantly.
part of the output pressure is fed back to the exciters to produce a more intense field to produce more pressure in the output and the load. it keeps doing this until the the pressure is equalized according to the resistance of the system. of course there is a limit to the systems we build.
larger generators can handle higher pressures in it's system but then again it does so over time not instantly. if the system primaries would instantly produce an extreme amount of pressure something is going to blow and blow very hard it will.
the opposite is also quite true, disconnecting a system under high electric pressures is probably one of the most dangerous thing one could possibly do as Tesla and Steinmetz were quite aware of the dangers involved.

The Figuera device is not so different than a standard generator other than the obvious which one is rotating and the other is stationary eliminating the nasty cogging effects of the rotating rotor which takes massive amounts of power to overcome the attractive forces.
Figuera in his sheer genius used a rotating Inductor to not only change the currant intensity but used the storing and releasing of potentials to offset each other in the switching process. this basic technique reuses the potential in the system just like a standard generator does  thus acts just like the above description to the tee.
the exciting system and the external system are basically two separate systems and once up to running condition the power draw on the exciting system is reduced to that of the IR2 losses just like a standard generator.

Marathonman

Just checking in to see how progress is going here. From what I understand, Marathonman is in contact with someone who has a working device and has been helping him to disclose info? Is that true, or did someone feed me a line? Anyway, since MM's first post in [size=0px]February of 2014, it has been a few years, and I was wondering how far along folks are? Have any of the claims that this would make all other devices look silly proven out, or is the research to get a working device still ongoing?[/size]

Progress on this site, now that's an overstatement if i have ever heard one.  all everyone on this site and EF do is argue instead of doing tests and or bench work.  as for "The Someone" i have not talked to him in a while. i do hope he and his family are well if he is listening.

no, no body fed you a line of bs as i am from my research and bench work a witness to his accomplishment which i might say was top notch work. yes he did share a lot but it took some years for me to understand just what he was talking about in a few areas.
i have learned and built enough to say that the device works as he predicted but no one even bothers to learn just how the device works or even seems to care. people in hell want ice but that doesn't mean they are going to get it when not knowing how to freeze water.

a lot of info has been posted and actually should be read for a change understanding it's implication but that is not my concern. my only concern i have right now is looping the secondary back to part G and i will leave you with that.

I am much farther along than what all of them together seem to know which is nothing.

Stay tuned the fun is just about to get started and trolls will be silenced once and for all.

Regards,

Marathonman

The whole reason myself and others from EF at that time were attaining such low output is the reduction of the magnetic fields of the primary electromagnets in relation to the secondary. if the winding's on part G are to little then the current reduction will be small then so is the E field presented to the secondary. the graph below is where the mistake was made by most.
the top one is where to little of winding's on part G causes a small variation in magnetic field thus causing a very small E field to the secondary.
the bottom graph is the actual area the magnetic fields of the primaries are being swept across the entire secondary. if the proper amount of winding were to be wound on part G the sweeping action will be the entire length of the secondary.

this is of course having the proper pressure between the primaries in the first place. it takes 14.8 lbs pressure being swept across the secondary to attain 1 kilowatt of output power so if your pressure is to low you will not get an output or very little.

for every kilowatt of output the primaries split the pressure between them so each primary electromagnet is is accountable for 7.4 lbs pressure one increasing, one decreasing causing the Electric fields of each electromagnet to be coherent which is the same direction of currant flow. and again i will throw out the Physics fact of what i just said.

Marathonman