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Pierre's 170W in 1600W out Looped Very impressive Build continued & moderated

Started by gotoluc, March 23, 2018, 10:12:45 AM

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T-1000

Quote from: konehead on June 23, 2018, 05:33:32 AM
Anyways what I did was timed a short circuit of that fat aircoed coil with a simple brush - copper commuttor and this short circuit of coil timed to happen in middle of the sinewave peak period.
And you can see clearly in scope photo at bottom page in link just what happens and  I call this A.C. hyper ringing....it fills up caps like crazy is its advantage.
If anyone remember Ismael Aviso car https://peswiki.com/directory:ismael-aviso-self-charging-electric-car that was exactly about same thing. You can do many fancy things around coil shorting but in general it deviates from general AC generator function...

Dog-One

I see exactly what is going on in those scope shots.  You have a high frequency (probably odd harmonic) carrier with a low frequency parametric resonance as the modulation.  Once parametric resonance grows, it almost completely dwarfs the carrier frequency.

Below are some snaps I generated at the 21st harmonic.

Whatever you do though guys, don't think about this for even a minute because I'm full of shit.   ;)

onielsen

Quote from: konehead on June 23, 2018, 05:33:32 AM
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Anyways this got me thinking "maybe" what is going on is that those noisy mechanical relays Pierre used  are so slow to open and maybe sticking closed a bit of time too, so instead of a reversal of polarity in pulsing as is desired, it instead creates a brief shorted out condition to the inductor, ubtil the relays finallyl wedge themselves open, and this without knowledge of Pierre and so this is the mystery-power Pierre finds and videos show....
A bit far fetched but possible.....here is link to page Pierre wrote to me about look at scope photo at bottom of page
https://sites.google.com/site/alternativeworldenergy/shorting-coils-circuits
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Hi Kone,

This is very possible if the relay modules have a diode across each relay coil for protecting a transistor output. This will slow down the demagnetization of the coil as only the resistance of the coil in series with the resistance of the forward biased diode is dissipating the energy. For fast release of a relay a resistive snubber has to be used. The resistance has to be high enough to generate a flyback peak voltage a little below the max allowed voltage that the transistor can take. This gives the fastest demagnetization of the magnetic circuit (of the relay) and thus the fastest release of the armature. The slow release could be the secret for mixing the fields in a coherent way in the stator of the DZ generator. As long as a coil is shorted it acts as a permanent magnet. At least this is true if the short is of very low resistance.

Regards
Ole

konehead

Hi Ole
It must be ultra low resistance to those mechanical relays and ultra low resistance is required for filling up caps very fast and very high with a coil that is first induced by sweeping magnet, or Pierre's case. coils pulsed with DC, then inadvertently shorted because of the sticking or just very slow mechanical relays.
Coherence of the stator fields you mention to me would be rectifying of all the "trapped" and induced fields between the NS or SN pair of pulsed and energized  fields at each edge of one of the 6 poles...such as in example laminate segment #1 would be RHR while laminate segment  #6  would be  LHR, and so this establishes a N and S electromagnet for that pole.
Now those wrapped  but un-pulsed laminate segments between
#1 and #6 become induced pickup winds, all rectified so power created all combined to flow into common capacitor bank...so there is the coherence...
Also I believe "if" those simultaneous  pulsed DC fields (#1 and #6) do have a brief short applied to them, the hyper ringing created would also be inducing this hyper ringing condition into those  fields between too
(#2 #3 #4 #5)
so there is some more coherence going on too and this in a hyper ringing state...








konehead

Hi T-1000
Ismael would do 5 very quick shorts in succesion during the peak period (just before saturation of the coil) to the pulsed DC inductors in his MEG reactor that powered his electric car.


First short initiates the ringing and the remaining 4 shorts are timed to occur at the peaks of the ringing peaks created!
Now you get exponential power increase for purpose of filling up cap very fast and very high.


This has some relevance to DZ generator since the rotating stator fields are.pulsed DC, and if there is a brief shorted condition in them, the AC hyper-ringing created will also be.induced into the fixed rotor coil.