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Overunity Machines Forum



Magnets, motion and measurement

Started by Floor, October 31, 2016, 09:11:43 PM

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norman6538

Thanks Floor, I commend you for your diligence. You are much like Butch Lafonte
a few years back but he is nowhere around these days.
Your idea is great but I never liked the rack and had no way to make that.
I thought of using drawer slides but they are not very precise.
Do you have a good source for the rack?

I prefer robust bearings like the bicycle crank and the front wheel axle because
they are play/slop adjustable.

Butch Lafonte made a scissors like device that had repel on one end and
attract on the other end which demonstrates the balance but it has no use.
Your 2 opposite magnets is a mag force "balancer/killer". It is very tricky to
balance where attract and repel is equal so using the Lafonte opposites
I should be able to have one on each end of a bicycle crank and get them
balanced so there is almost no force to remove the mag force blocker
and let the repel work. So for very little effort I can get twice the work out
and increase the OU.

My magnets did not come today and are delayed.
So I am working on a bicycle crank robust setup with a device
on each end of the crank to balance it out and that might be a good
thing not to have the magnets today because I can work more on the design
and save time and bench work.

Thanks for the dialogue. You are one of a few who are still interested in
harvesting the power of the permanent magnet.

Norman

citfta



I am pretty sure there are others like myself that have been following these threads about using magnets for quite some time.  I do believe it is possible to harness that power but I don't comment much because I don't feel I have anything useful to add.  Both of you have been doing some excellent work and I try to follow you closely.  Thanks so much for your efforts and for being willing to share what you have learned.

Thanks again,
Carroll

norman6538

Thanks Carroll. I learn slowly but it really sinks in. Floor has really discovered the
key to obtaining useful power from permanent magnets. And by counter balancing
2 or more mechanisms the work required will be very little. What behooves me is
that no one ever posts that they are making/exprimenting on such simple ideas.

We'll get there this year I think.
Norman

Floor

@ Carroll

Thanks for pipeing in once in a while.

PS  I worked out an OU gravity device  !
  Didn't really think it was possable.


citfta

Hi guys,


I might have something worth about 2 cents to add.  I have been thinking about how to make a smooth moving track with no side play.  I have found on Ebay small bearings in multiple quantities from time to time.  Usually like 12 or so to a set.  Skate board bearings are usually pretty cheap if bought in quantities of 12 or so.  If you get some of them or smaller bearings depending on the size of your project you can build a pretty solid slide or track with little friction.  Your first need to find some wooden dowel rod that is the same size as the inside of your bearings.  Then drill a hole in the dowel that is offset from the center.  Using bolts and nuts to mount the dowel onto your support board.  By rotating the dowel you can adjust the clearance between the bearing and your track or slide rod.  Obviously the rod or track needs to be square and perfectly smooth.  With two bearings on one side and one bearing on the other you should be able to get nice smooth movement.  Of course you also need bearings on the other two sides that are perpendicular to the first two.


And I also have an idea for a toothed track.  You can also get on Ebay various sizes and lengths of timing belts and the pulleys that go with them.  By cutting a long timing belt in to two pieces you could glue one half on one track rod and the other half on the other track rod and mount the pulley between the two track rods.  This would keep the tracks in time with one another without expensive gearing mechanisms.  The kind I am talking about are only about 1/8 inch to 1/2 inch wide.  I don't mean the large ones like are used on cars.  The small ones can also be found in some scanners and copy machines.  I have used those kinds of belts and pulleys for some of my experiments a few years ago when I was trying to get a magnet motor to work.  The motor didn't work but the timing belt and pulley did work just fine.

I hope these suggestions are some help.  Right now I am very busy with some major home projects but I really think the opposing magnet track idea will work with gravity and some weight bringing the magnets back together again.

Floor I am really looking forward to anything further you can add about your OU device.

Thanks again to both of you for your  efforts and being willing to share.
Carroll