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Food for Thought: Our World

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Quote from: onepower on April 09, 2020, 08:03:07 PM
Hello Floor
1. The reason I made or rather implied a claim was to have someone question it. Not judge me but debate the claim and the technology like rational adults. However rather than debate FE on it's merits the trolls would rather point fingers and judge. Have you ever wondered why so few want to talk about where the energy comes from, how it can be transformed and how it manifests in any given device?.

2. Of course many already have the technology, how could they not?. However the powers that be found that just putting a bullet in someone's head or poisoning them was drawing too much attention so they hired people to spread disinformation and gaslight the FE inventors. They also have business people approaching every FE inventor who gets too close and gag them with contracts and non-disclosure agreements.

It's kind of strange isn't it?, I make a claim and nobody has the common sense to ask... where does the energy come from, how can we transform it and how does it manifest within a relatively simple circuit in a more practical form we can use?. These are the only questions on my mind and any baggage or psychotic behavior an inventor may have is really none of my business. Tell me something I don't know, help me move forward and make progress, it's not rocket science but apparently few want to talk about it because they find it a little disturbing with respect to there beliefs.

One power,
1.   Never read your claim or anything about your technology but am willing to do so if you will be so kind as to repost it or PM it.
      Last year in March I posted what you see quoted below - it is quite similar to what you now write only a level deeper.

2.   I tend to agree with your thoughts (in this post) and I am willing to talk about what will help you with what I suspect you have yet to learn.

3.   I invite you to "fill in the blanks" below if you can. publicly or privately. The reason I do so is because you invite debate when there is no need for debate once I know that you do or do not have knowledge of precisely what "energy" IS in reality. Just so you know there was nobody who even tried to complete either of the two sentences. Maybe you have the "uncommon sense" to do just that.

Quote from: Temporal Visitor on March 20, 2019, 06:58:19 PM
Yes it is interesting but pretty much to be expected and for a multitude of reasons people OF this world don't care to discuss.

Instead let logic and reason be your guide: Without knowledge of what energy IS - people OF this world have no knowledge of what they NEED to look for to be able to find the elusive "free energy". They think they know what they WANT and chase after that blinded by their own ignorance.

They can see only that which they WANT to see - and walk on by all the rest with self imposed limited vision.

Perhaps what follows will help illuminate a very real problem faced by those OF this world claiming to be "human beings" possessed with scientific minds (LOL) which possess:

NO KNOWLEDGE OF WHAT ENERGY IS.

"It is important to realize in physics today we have no knowledge of what energy is." – Richard Feynman

{pragmatism ON}

That is a statement of fact from a now deceased highly degreed expert in the science of physics.
It is compelling evidence that stands as truth which can be overcome only by other better evidence.
It is evidence that those claiming to be experts in physics are not experts on subjects involving energy.

Accepting Mr. Feynman's statement of fact as true reasonably leads to the conclusion that people deemed to be experts in physics cannot be considered both authoritative experts and admittedly have NO KNOWLEDGE of what energy is at the same time.
The logical extension of the above leads to exposure of rampant scientific fraud that ripples throughout civilization as it is today.

That ".... Energy and Matter cannot be created nor destroyed ...." is taught to children and adults the world over as law and fact by teachers typically having lesser credentials than Mr. Feynman and those in physics all of which who have no knowledge of what energy is. Which amounts to having received an education from another who has also no knowledge of what energy is, and they are getting paid for supposedly teaching information that people need to improve their knowledge and life. (It is constructive fraud ab intio.)

The point I am trying to impress upon people is that until such time as people come to grips with the fact that you also are without exacting knowledge of WHAT ENERGY IS, you are simply rolling dice hoping to win. Unfortunately the dice are loaded in a game that is rigged to take everything you will ever have to lose, scientifically.

Fortunately: "It does not require many words to speak the truth." – Chief Joseph

Energy is merely a word.
 
Beyond energy being just a word; anyone can understand precisely what energy is when they can complete this simple, 100% pragmatic four word sentence; as a statement of irrefutable fact.

Energy is ______  ______  .

Moreover, when this 100% pragmatic nine word sentence, also as a statement of fact is completed they will be well on their way to know the how, what, where, when and why of energy, all energy for that matter, and much more irrefutably.   

All Energy is ______  ______  ______  ______  ______  ______  .

Michael {/pragmatism off}

I "know" very little beyond what I am.

Giving you fish will not teach you to feed yourself.

Nor will academia, science, law, politics, ideology, religion, world views, etc. ever CONvert lies and ignorance to knowledge.

World energy cartels are not in the energy business at all. They are in the CONVERSION business; converting others wealth into theirs by selling products people mistake for energy, such as oil products, nuclear products, natural gas products etc. - all of which are what they really already are; fuels they take from the Earth at only the cost of production and sell at a profit, legally.
Guided by teams of shysters that assist them in cleverly skirting prosecution and take down for fraud. After all: "energy and Matter cannot be created ...." but people buy that BS also.
Living an illusion IS by choice.

Take that for what you will but understand this: To find whatever one might search for, one needs first to know what it IS that they seek. Truth is not relative.

onepower

Temporal Visitor

Over the course of decades I have refined my arguments not against people like you but myself. You and others are not my adversary, I am my own and once we understand this we can evolve as an individual.

We could debate any number of things however one simple truth would remain. Nobody here could ever give me even one example of anything not in perpetual motion and motion is energy. Do you understand?, Motion is energy and everything is in perpetual motion thus everything is ...energy.

You and others are debating the wrong arguments my friend and there is only one and it relates only to energy. What is it, why is it, how is it and from there we move to the transformation of energy at which point anything is possible. People speak of "free" energy yet they seem to have no comprehension of what energy is... what is it, why is it?.

It always comes down to one question nobody seems to want to answer... what is energy?. Can or will you answer this apparently simple question?.

Regards











lancaIV

Hello onepower,
Okay,so something to debatte :
F=ma  a~ E=m cv2 

-F= md     d= -E= (M2 +M1)cv-2  positive potenz  negative potenz  a= accelerare  d = decelerare
Tokamak : accelerator or decelerator/collider( cool-ider ?) ?
1v1 = 1  1v-1 =

10v0= 1 10v-0 =

General convention agreement with fixation ?
Your solely convention agreement with " fixation !?" ?
My solely convention agreement with " fixation!?" ?

Potenzieren : magnitude ? Verdicken/thicker !? Verduennen /thinner !?
     Matter is thick energy   Energy is thin matter

Energy IS force   Is this force ever strong or weak ,related to : !?

Actio/Reactio F/-F wenn zwei sich streiten - dann freut sich der Dritte : zwei in einem Fang,Klase !


E= Lorentz Kraft or Force ergo mcv2 the matter to energy "TRANSFORMTION 's FORMEL"
I never heared or reed about " Lorentz Energy" !

WE ARE NOT IN GERAL IN THE SAME WORTBILD AND ZAHLBILD LEVEL INTERNATIONAL,independant if newbie(Kindergarden) or Prof.Dr.Dr.....(Titular from several universitarian disciplines/facultas)with international high renomme awards

Even " automatique/automatic/automatische translator" their several,different soft machines offer,work-scheme results show this



Is to know "English" enough or do I need "Anglizistik" ?
Is "Deutsch" enough or need I "Germanistik" ?
Is "Latinum" enough or need I "Romanik" ?
Is "Physics"  enough or need I " Philosophy" ?
Is "law"        enough or need I "Constitution" ?

In which language are written the "originals"  by which Weltbild=Philosophy-Image from the several Academies of Sciences in the 16,/17,/18,/19,/20, centuries ?


The translation to our today offered "lecture" : in original language ? Translated ? Translation from a translation ? Think-error potentials,typo-error potentials ?




Electro-magnetic energy/force to matter :
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=4&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19931118&CC=DE&NR=4215818A1&KC=A1

Are we not technical on this stage ?  What are holographic images,bodies ?Why different formulas ? How works an hexapod applikator ?

Why not only one formula,but a combination off "matter" and /or "energy/force" defining multi-dimensions limiting frontiers !?


Manfred Alexander Gregor,with surprising techno-scientifical standart :
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/searchResults?submitted=true&locale=en_EP&DB=EPODOC&ST=advanced&TI=&AB=&PN=&AP=&PR=&PD=&PA=manfred+gregor&IN=&CPC=&IC=&Submit=Search

Floor

The concept of energy, for the most part is derived from observation of the physical changes
that occur when energy is transferred between two bodies or systems.  It might be said that energy has only ever been defined through describing the affects it has.

The affects energy will have when it is expressed or transferred between two objects has been studied, measured and recorded, with extreme accuracy and precision, countless times and in innumerable ways.  A great deal is known about energy in this respect. 

Following are examinations of the definitions of energy and work from two of my old dictionaries.

Webster's New World Dictionary 1956

energy: the capacity for doing work and overcoming resistance

work: the  transference of force from one body, or system to another, measured by the product of the force and the amount of displacement in the line of force.

The American College Dictionary 1947 / 1948

energy: the property of a system which diminishes, when the system does work on any other system,
by an amount equal to the work so done.

work: the transference of energy from one body or system to another.

It is interesting to note that the Webster's definitions, energy and work are defined by each
other.  Except that the word force is used in place of the word energy in the definition of work.  Note that a force is an expression of energy that is causing any object to undergo a change, in
its movement, direction, or geometrical construction.

The American College definition of energy says that energy is a property of a system.  This is
an interesting beginning for the definition, in light of  the fact that any physical system is composed entirely of energy, 100% so.  Matter is composed entirely of energy and I think that probably energy is also.  Although perhaps energy is composed of some sort of information
that organizes it ?  Even if this is so, the dictionary definitions stand unaffected. 

So to continue.......

energy: "the property of a system"
                  Therefore energy is the property of energy or, energy is the property of it's self.



                                                                     ENERGY                                                                        P 2

                      "which diminishes"

Energy is a property that diminishes.  We can safely assume that this diminishing is not caused by the destruction of energy (else all hell should break loose).  It must therefore be that this
diminishing is either transformation or transfer. I'm guessing that transference is the cause of
the diminishing and will interpret it as such. 

                    which transfers

                    "when this system"
                     when this energy

                    "does work"
                     transfers energy
 
                   "on any other system"
                    to any other energy

                   "by an amount equal to the work so done"
                    by an amount equal to the energy so transferred

And now the complete interpretation.

Energy is the property of energy that transfers, when this energy transfers energy to any other energy by an amount equal to the energy so transferred.

The only questions I'm left with at this point are:

1 Does it require an expenditure of energy in order for energy to transfer it's self ?
2 Is transference the expenditure of energy or is it rather that, energy IS transference ?

Definitions of energy by the use of terminology such as "fundamental interactions", make the rabbit hole deeper, but the same questions remain unanswered.  An interaction is an energy exchange, even if it is "fundamental", and even if it does violate conservation.

lancaIV

Hello floor,

unscientifical this means that compared to scalar-vector use between speed/velocity also in use is a scalar-vector meaning of force/energy ,by given Websters definition !

You can correct me if you defind/define this as wrong !







                                "orthogonal" : nomen et omen

                                                         words and image/imagination

                                                        biography and life

                 
                                "orthogonal": but it is written " right-angle"

                                 but for right we use today law and instead angelo advocate/lawyer and magistrat,prosecutor

                                 ANDERE ZEITEN ANDERE SITTEN      OTHER TIMES,OTHER CUSTOMS






Sincerely and sinfull Eastern/Pasqua/Ostern days

OCWL


p.s.: transformer in german Transformator  das FORMAT die FORM who gave/baptizised this device with this name/nomen and why ? mental intention ?


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contra :                                                                                     ,,Gott ist tot" – Der europäische Nihilismus


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