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Negative resistance via pyroclay.com material ?

Started by hartiberlin, October 02, 2007, 10:25:37 AM

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Mr.Entropy

It's nice that you value your own observations and experience.  What Linda refers to as a "basic education", however, is a concentrate distilled from the observations and experience of _coutless_ others.

It takes a special kind of person to disregard that.

I wouldn't change you, though.  It takes a special kind of person to do experiments in search of overunity.

Cheers,

Mr. Entropy

RadiantEnRg

I'm not disregarding anything. It is a cold hard fact that electricity behaves as such when a closed loop is made. What isn't cold hard facts is, what is happening when no direct loop is made. H.V. capacitance coupling is obviously at play, but where the "electrons" that power a one wire illumination come from.....thats a different question...One I don't think conventional electrodynamics can offer....I believe that we are all connected via a "life line" of sorts...a flow that connects every atom of matter. It wants to come into our circuits...we have to build them right.

armagdn03

Wow, uh, I left for a week, I come back and its all gone to hell! Lol, anyways, I think this has become a dead conversation from which nothing can be taken, other than soap opera?ish banter of course!

Anyways I would like to offer an explanation as to why a dc biased AC signal is necessary for this particular circuit to work.
If it works like I think it might, and that is a big if.....then the bead is the element that needs to be looked at, in its novel configuration as self resonating spark gap.

If we have voltage potential across the spark gap (bead) at 25 volts. In order to sufficiently ionize the gap and have a spark, we need say 30 volts.  The true RMS multimeter may read at an average 27 volts.  What is happening is we start at 25 volts

we get a ripple, sets us to 30 volts for a brief time,

we have a spark,

pulse goes down the coil, bounces back opposite polarity

Now we have a 25 volt potential across the gap again, until the negative 30 volt pulse makes its way back to the gap

Now we have a potential difference somewhere around 55 volts, enough to make a powerful spark, that will??go down the coil, bounce back and induce another pulse.

This could be replicated with a battery! But it will not just run, you would need an artificial way to create an ?ignition? pulse to get you from 25, to 30 volts, then it should take care of itself.

My guess is that the ripple from the power supply only plays a part in coaxing the circuit into operation, after that beginning point, it probably just brings efficiency down a bit.

THIS IS BRILLIANT THINK ABOUT IT! An auto resonating circuit? A built in feedback loop?



As you all have probably noticed, I never post experimental results. I just speculate. I am an armchair physicist in your eyes, I know. I would love to bring experimental results to the table with empirical evidence, however I?m quite afraid I will get ripped apart. I would think that this place of all places would be a safe forum for open thought and personal as well as collective growth.

I am quite ashamed at the flame war going on, and it really saddens me to see such effort go up in smoke amidst the name calling and mistrust.

How about a little collaboration? Some people have scopes, some people have True RMS digital multimeters, some people have analogue meters, some people don?t have anything at all. We all do our best with what we have.

If you do not feel that results presented were measured accurately, either kindly offer measuring advice, with instructions and be available for further questioning, or???replicate yourself and post your improved measurement results.

Do not criticize without bringing something to the table! Its very easy to take a pious position and think yourself superior to others. It is human nature. Especially in the OU field where we are on the fringe of accepted science, and the direct result of your experimentation may equate to knowledge nobody else in the world holds. You know something others don?t im sure, does that give the right to belittle others? I personally believe no, and I think to do so is a waste of time effort, and space that  could be used helping your fellow man.

Also, I see a lot of requests for scope shots from different people.

Understandable.

But, what if the person does not have the means to accomplish this? Scopes are very expensive. I don?t own one yet, and don?t want to buy a cheep one because I would like a nice one down the road, and don?t want to buy twice. Just keep things like this in mind. We all do what we can with what we have. We are all in this together, and we are the last people that should be fighting with each other.



?hey, why don?t you take a scope shot and post it??

?sorry I don?t own a scope, do you have any other suggestions?

?No not really, someone once said an EE without a scope is like a blind truck driver, maybe you could check at your local university. They usually have equipment you can use if you are a student, if you are not a student, maybe a friend can help you out. ?

?wow thanks, really good advice, as soon as I do that ill post what I find out!?




Oh man, that would be a sweet world.
I wish I could turn my brain off sometimes, then I could get some sleep.

Super

@ armagdn03, thank you for your articles, very interesting, very good explained!  ;)



If anybody likes to know:

As far i have done a lot of avramenko style experiments look at mr. frolov
(don't ask me about power factors, i did not mesured it - yet).

This shows me same results as seen in RadiantEnRg's movies:

- closed loop: light bulb shines normal
- open loop with metal plate: light bulb shines brighter (obviously)

I used high voltage @ 8 Khz and low voltage @ >30 Mhz for this with same results.
Question is if near/far field theory really can't explain this phenomenon ...   :-\

Oh, my powerline is 400m hair-size copper wire going from basement to garden ...

My next attempt is to do resonance between two high voltage transformers.


I can only suggest everybody to do some tests with the avramenko plug, read what frolov says about and
read what armagdn03 and RadiantEnRg tells you  ...

PS.: @ RadiantEnRg how did you open your power supply, i tryed with a screwdriver but my HP is stronger - don't want to break it or flex it  ;D

Super

RadiantEnRg

@ Armagdn03....You are right. I tried not to get angry....but I am human, and sometimes I just get mad. Especially when I am called things like naive. I personally thought me and Linda were past it????

I have a scope...I do not have a power supply at the moment. That is why I have not complied...I think I have said this like 8 times now. I have tried to replicate with other means....(A motor/commutator,...555 oscillator,....etc) but it didn't work...I need a synchronous induction motor for that to work., I think my next circuit will be Transistor driven....triggered by a sensing loop(this might do the trick)

@ Super... That's great...I used 10-12v @ 10-11Khz....30V works much better....however I couldn't get driving opto's to stay alive :(

As for the power supply question....I used a long strong knife(be careful).....I managed to get one side up, then I used knife as a lever to pop it all the way off.