Quote from: kolbacict on May 20, 2021, 01:53:08 AM
74LS90 the microcircuit divides the input frequency tenfold.
What is our thyristor switching frequency, at maximum division, 1 Hz?
And on the switch, at the bottom it says for some reason the division step two?
Well, I'll do it today, anyway. 

p.s. Here, I found it.This is about the previous question.
Outlined in red, is this not a dynamo?

p.s. Are these factory bifilar chokes suitable for your design 8XA ?
Or should I make my own?

I did write a long paragraph but it got deleted some how. This is the circuit I used, just note I made some changes and drew the rectifiers backwards. MOT stands for microwave over transformer. This was the circuit I posted so that others could also do what I was doing but to the best of my knowledge no one followed me back then. But it did provide a opportunity to those whom wanted to just steal people's work to try and make a buck from it as Danial Donatelli has this drawing I made on his website complete with all the errors I made, lol. He didn't know what a MOT was either, lol. But anyway this was the first time I started to put true high voltage directly to the water bath and it opened up a whole new line of learning as now I had to learn the rules for dealing with high voltage. I was no longer at the beginner's stage dealing with low voltages and since no one followed what it was I was doing I remained the only one putting high voltage to the water capacitor. Do note the waveform in that drawing that seems to be elevated above the zero line as that is exactly what my waveform looked like before I moved back to using the VIC.


You see I kept things close to what Meyer did as the way I saw it it bettered my chances of figuring out just what it was he did. That drawing with the "Red" in it is a far departure from what Meyer did and I really can't tell you anything about it as I didn't go that route and thus have no experience dealing with that setup. But I too went off from what Meyer did as shown here, but know it didn't work out all that well: https://overunity.com/9856/relative-permittivity-of-water/135/ Now again I drew this up and made and tested it and it didn't work out as planned.


One thing is for certain you must do is you will have to get a differential probe as if you hook up some grounded probe leads to a 8xa/9xa circuit it will trip the house circuit breaker. Sorry to tell you this as I know you wish to get around that but it seems that it is a must have tool for dealing with this technology. But as I stated now I had to learn all the rules for dealing with high voltages as I had passed the beginner stage. I also found out that it works best if the chokes share the same magnetic field of the MOT which was good to know as it gave me a better understanding of the VIC circuit transformer. But the wire used for this should be 18-16 gauge as I used 22 gauge I think and it kept burning out on me for as you can see in this video I had to use a fan to keep the chokes from burning up: [size=78%]https://youtu.be/fqVIJOa6NsU[/size].


The only reason why I went back to some of Meyer's older stuff was the guy who knew Meyer traded the alternator version as a core charge for a new alternator before anyone could get a look inside to see just what Meyer did to the alternator, thus no one truly knows how the alternator setup was truly done. All that you see on the net about Meyer's alternator version is someone's interpretation of what they think Meyer did nothing more and I feel they got it wrong. This left us with the 8xa/9xb circuit to work with to try and understand what Meyer had done as well as his Voltage Intensifier Circuit which at the time had us all stumped. You see in dealing with the 8xa/9xa circuit I learned I had to make use of a differential probe for each and every time I tried to take some readings of the cell using my ground probe leads it would trip the house's circuit breaker. Due to the transformer isolation this didn't happen with the VIC circuit but what we didn't know at the time was each time we'd hook up our grounded probe leads to the VIC circuit it would take away the negative voltage. Now having learned that I needed to use a differential probe on the 8xa/9xb circuit I knew I was grounding out the VIC circuit and thus switched back to using that circuit once I had figure that out making use of this differential probe I had gotten so that I could see what the 8xa/9xb circuit was doing at the cell. The one I had turned out to not have a high enough voltage rating so I had to get another one, and later on as I improved things getting even higher voltages to the cell I had to get yet another differential probe that was rated to read the newer voltages I was getting to the cell. My hope in telling you all this is you will see why you must get a differential probe as it is a must have tool for dealing with this technology. None of us knew we were grounding the Voltage Intensifier Circuit out with our grounded probe leads at the time. I don't think I shared this information with anyone before as I just told people they needed to get a differential probe without explaining why they needed to get one and it seems most chose to not get one because of that. For me it's like making a mistake in your writing and you have to read it backwards to find the mistakes you made so perhaps now that I explained why I had to get a differential probe folks will learn from me this time around.


This is me going through my memories in reverse and seeing that I never explained to anyone why I had to get a differential probe. I guess I have a lot of stuff in my head that I haven't explained to anyone before but that's life as I did everything by way of hands on experimentation and some of what I learned and/or observed never made it on paper as someone would have to have mirrored what I was doing to see and learn the things I know now and trust me I gave many a chance to do so, but practically every offer was rejected to work together for the greater good and/or just to be able see how this technology actually worked scientifically. I was forced to go it alone for the most part with a little help from a few friends I ran into along the way.


Take care all,
Edward

Hello Everyone,


Now that I shared why I had to use a differential probe perhaps you all will stop listening to fools whom tell you you don't need to get one. Again with the 8xa/9xb circuit each and every time I'd hook up the probe leads that had a path to ground it would trip the circuit breaker in my house. I asked my friend Gunther how was I supposed to tune this thing if I couldn't see what it was I was doing? He replied to me that I needed to get a differential probe which I had no idea at the time what it was, but I trusted him and ordered one from ebay. Once it came in I was finally able to see just what it was I was doing at the cell and tune the waveform to resonance. For those thinking you can hear resonance trust me you can not as that is something you have to see on the oscilloscope.


When I switched back to making using the VIC I know had a tool that was designed to let me see just what was going on and I saw the waveform produce a negative voltage for the very first time. I went back and re-read all of the material Meyer had put out and noted that in a lot of Meyer's drawing he didn't show a negative voltage but if you read that part in the reading section he did talk about the negative part. But I still had to learn how to correctly wire up the Voltage Intensifier circuit so I looked over what Don Gable had put out and decided he must have made a mistake and went to wiring up the VIC in every conceivable way I could think of. When I figure out how to wire it up the correct way I also noted it put a lot of electrical stress on the transformer and they began to short out on me after a short time of use. One shorted out on me in just a few seconds after I got it wound up. This is when I really started paying attention to the transformer observing everything while turning up the voltage very slowly with the lights off so I could see if a corona was building up on the wires and just as I predicted there was a corona around the wires of the transformer. When I kept turning up the voltage observed the corona got brighter and would then send a small arc to the transformer's core which in return would send back a really large voltage arc to the transformer. One solution I tried was to make use of some transformer oil which did extend the transformer life a lot but in time the ringing noise it was making would end up shorting out the transformer as the noise was coming from the wires as they moved back and forth to produce the sound I was hearing. This would eventually rub off the wires protective coating and just as science tells us the current will always follow the path of least resistance and as such would jump across the wires to get to ground as it did not like going through the resistance wire one bit so it would take a short cut. After one of my transformers failed I carefully opened it back up and inspected it to see just what went wrong and the wires looked like some beautiful metal flaked paint as it was like a lightening storm inside of the transformer. I'd also observe it in the dark and could see the blue color of arcing taking place within the transformer.
Then it hit me. Why don't we have any turn counts of the transformer Meyer designed to work with the injectors? And the answer to that question was that transformer was vacuum resin sealed so I went out and got me some, along with a vacuum pump, and I made my own vacuum chamber. The first transformer I made like this ended up in complete failure and I had to make another one which story I have already shared with everyone. Once I built the transformers this way they would last and not short out on me like all of my previous transformers did so the problem was solved and I was free to keep improving them to get even higher voltages being applied to the water fuel cell.


Now I will ask each of you to not make the 8xa/9xb circuit as if you do you will still need to get a differential probe so instead save your money to get the probe instead of wasting it buying all the stuff you need to build a 8xa/9xb circuit. But if you choose to do so I can't stop you so go right ahead if you feel the need to build one and just so you know this guy beat my gas produce rate: [size=78%]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mpx45ijtFS0&ab_channel=SpaceManAustSpaceManAust[/size] [size=78%]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G5ADiODLhfA&ab_channel=SpaceManAustSpaceManAust[/size][size=78%]. [/size]Note I did contact him and built my plate cell based on his design and got the same gas production he did and note the both of us had a really small plate spacing and use bars as our plates were on the thick side as compared to everyone else's. But again this is not the way Meyer ended up using to run his dune buggy as that would be using the Voltage Intensifier Circuit.


I've learned to question everything and truly listen to my experimental results. This is why I could not be moved by people just talking to hear themselves talk as I was actually performing the work hands on and observing my results first hand just as the scientific method would have me to do. Now I have to save up to get a few more machines I need and the rest should be history.


Shalom,
Edward

https://youtu.be/9gqyG3_2gYY
OK. Well, there is gas. Goes well.
But I measure the current in a circuit of about one ampere.
I'm afraid if I do the math, everything will be Faraday again.
The voltage from the secondary winding of the transformer is 120 volts. few?
Just a control pulse generator of my own design. I have manufactured before, for other applications.
I decided to use the ready-made one. The thyristor opening frequency varies from units of hertz to units of kilohertz. Decoupling from the power circuit is not through an optocoupler, but through a transformer.
p.s. oscillation frequency only mains frequency 50 Hz. No high frequency fillings are observed.
Taken with a differential probe on the cell itself.  The water heats up.

Quote from: kolbacict on May 22, 2021, 10:59:17 AM
https://youtu.be/9gqyG3_2gYY
OK. Well, there is gas. Goes well.
But I measure the current in a circuit of about one ampere.
I'm afraid if I do the math, everything will be Faraday again.
The voltage from the secondary winding of the transformer is 120 volts. few?
Just a control pulse generator of my own design. I have manufactured before, for other applications.
I decided to use the ready-made one. The thyristor opening frequency varies from units of hertz to units of kilohertz. Decoupling from the power circuit is not through an optocoupler, but through a transformer.
p.s. oscillation frequency only mains frequency 50 Hz. No high frequency fillings are observed.
Taken with a differential probe on the cell itself.  The water heats up.

In this version of Meyer's technology the water is going to heat up as most of what's being sent to the cell is positive pulses. Again from what I have taught all of you you should be able to look at the waveform in the drawing I provided and determine this to be the case as only a small portion of the waveform goes negative. Only with the Voltage Intensifier Circuit will you be able to almost perfectly balance the waveform where the positive and negative pulses cancel each other out.


When I went back to study the 8xa/9xa/9xd circuit it was to gain an understanding of the technology by walking in Meyer's footsteps doing things Meyer himself had done. I've already shared with you just what I learned and that was the secondary side of the Voltage Intensifier Circuit is a isolated circuit and as such no ground can be introduce to the circuit at any time hence the need to get a good differential probe that doesn't interfere with the circuit operation so that it can be tuned for resonance. This is also how I figured out Meyer's injectors never worked as the way he designed it would have grounded out the circuit to the car's electrical system. I feel given more time Meyer would have been able to figure that out but he wasn't given anymore time so people like me have to pick up where he left off.


Getting the waveform correct let me see that part of this technology was keeping the plates of the cell receiving the same voltage potential all the time. When I added in the MOT the voltages went up a whole lot being applied to the cell but it wasn't enough and to get it to be done correctly I'd have to make a MOT type transformer with the chokes incorporated into the transformer so then the choke coils would shared the same magnetic field being created by the primary coil. Once I understood this I was ready to start building and testing the Voltage Intensifier Circuit transformer. I have built a lot of them and learned how to get the voltage up the old fashion way by trial and error testing. I won't lie to you in telling you that this transformer was a real pain in the butt to figure out and then so too was the WFC as the one I have isn't built optimally even though I kept the tolerances within ± 0.005 inches which is something I just recently figured out.


All I need is money and time to finish this. But this is what I expect to be facing once I reach the point of putting this technology on the market: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q4RIHDeHsS0&ab_channel=TheHillTheHillVerified https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Q6Q3IdNFcs&ab_channel=TheHillTheHill

In general, where should they come from, these high-frequency oscillations?
The thyristor opened with a control pulse, at the end of the half-wave of the mains supply voltage (50 or 60 Hz.) It closed.

p.s. Maybe the dimensions of the electrodes in your picture are in inches?

p.p.s. I also wanted to say about your vacuum resin. I was repairing CRT TVs.
Sometimes it was necessary to insulate a burned-out high-voltage wire till 30kV.
No cambric, PVC tubing, duct tape could do it.I came up with the idea of using ordinary silicone for this.
Maybe it will work in your case?