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Stanley Meyer Explained

Started by h20power, March 15, 2009, 06:34:59 PM

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Quote from: pauldude000 on January 10, 2022, 04:03:11 AM
Good luck. Shouldn't be hard to crack, if you ignore the fluff he put in the patents and videos to throw off anyone trying to use them to reproduce the effects. Remember, he wanted to make money off of the idea, and what I mentioned is standard practice in both cases concerning such for anyone, including Tesla (why his stuff is so hard to reproduce accurately using the patents).


I have gone over all of his (Stanley Meyers) patents recently since they have all expired, as well as various videos. The videos are generally a waste of time, excepting one where he lets slip a lot more than he realized, where he was trying to impress someone (unknown) with a video camera concerning the famous car.


When it might be viewed, eventually, by someone like me, that is a horrible mistake.


I took notes of the relevant characteristics of how the system worked. This allowed me to weed out a LOT of fluff and BS, like the whole laser thing. The system is based upon a type of resonance, treating the water as a dielectric in a capacitor, intentionally trying for efficiency of dielectric breakdown utilizing high voltage at high frequency. Fifty thousand build types could easily perform the feat, though specific capacitor designs would probably be more efficient. Basically, he used destructive, reinforcing resonance.


I will explain destructive resonance. Destructive resonance does not need a lot of energy, since the amount applied, if exactly at Q, is completely or mostly absorbed within a substance. This has to do with not only the substance material, but by it's shape as well. That is how a certain pitch can shatter a crystal glass over time, since each vibration absorbed makes the glass vibrate harder, until the absorbed energy is sufficient to cause the lattices in the crystals to separate. High frequency electricity is already heck on dielectrics, piercing glass (a usually good dielectric) as if it wasn't there. The problem is that you want a resonating field, and not an arc, which limits the applied voltage to the dielectric, or modifies your capacitor to suit the applied voltage.


You want the water molecules to align, then hit them with a sharp pulse to fracture them at the right time. Concerning the supposed need of a laser -- remember that his videos showing his early working units often had NO light source other than ambient. No other energy source other than the power source, for the device he took to the patent office, as one specific.


Sounds easy right? Its not, rofl, no more than it is easy to knock down a building using destructive resonance, or drill through rock with sound using the same principles, but it can be done.


It is about as easy as accurately tuning an actual Tesla coil to Q, instead of making a Tesla coil shaped device that puts out arcs and can make music. Just because it looks like a Tesla coil and operates on high frequency and voltages, does not make it an intentionally engineered device, whether achieved initially by intention (Tesla) or by accident, trial and experimentation (most inventors like Stanley who start out with a good idea).


Stanley even ripped off some of Tesla's drawings for his patents, which I find hilarious and somehow honorific to Tesla -- both at the same time. He was basing his idea on Tesla's work, so it makes sense, though I think he could have done without that part.


Only the three lobed waveform lines up with explanations, by the way. It would probably be better to use an exciting field to line up the water molecules, then hit with as close to a voltage only (as high as possible without arcing through the dielectric) spike as possible.


I suggest experimenting with tuned D'Arsonval style autotransformer coil if you intend to use capacitive based current spikes instead, as that coil style is high amperage/high voltage/high frequency. 15Watts is 15watts, whether at five volts, five thousand, fifty thousand, five hundred thousand, or five million. However, that fifteen watts continuous can give pulses in the effective rage of hundreds of watts or even megawatts -- if the initial voltage is converted to high voltage and stored in a capacitor and then released as a single pulse, if the duration of the pulse is short enough -- for those reading that don't have a clue. The primary circuit of a properly designed tesla coil will quite possibly put you in the morgue with only 15 watts if touched by bare skin for that very reason, if you have built the design properly that is.


Paul Andrulis




If there was a way I could delete your comment I would as I've already posted, in this very thread, how this technology works and what it is mimicking in nature. I was able to get around all of the inventor's attempt to keep the technology hidden in plain sight by making use of the scientific method. It's a slow process of elimination but it gets the desired results if one just sticks to science learns how to truly observe the world around them. Lots of asking and answering questions using those well trained skills of observation is also a must something people truly tend not to do as it's much easier to just say stuff that sounds good in an attempt to be viewed as knowing something when they actually know nothing by their perceived peers.


You don't speak in scientific terms when the technology is quite simple because you never took the time to make use of the scientific method or read this thread and get the information I put out about this technology. I and I alone solved this technology by ignoring people like you and even Meyer and others like him and instead focus my efforts on making use of the scientific method. In the end I figured out stuff about this technology not even Meyer knew about, but unlike Meyer I shared the science behind this technology for free and people like you simply refuse to listen to what I have to say really gets on my nerves as I did all the hard work of asking and answering questions about this technology already. I think it's because I posted what I learned for free is why people like you like to ignore the science I put out and simply chime in with a bunch of nonsense when no one is asking you too. You see I am fully aware of what I did as someone had to break the chain and not take the science behind this technology with them in death and guess what? I am that someone. Here again is the actual science behind this technology given to the world by me: [size=78%]https://adobefreeuserschannel.na3.documents.adobe.com/public/fs?aid=CBFCIBAA3AAABLblqZhBHwnu0ZoIma-oV4QM4v1jOGi46qx-tIaYtZpYhOzFPQSVahcL3H7Rv0oPteGmUhck%2A[/size]


Again I did this to break the pattern I saw with all those that stumbled upon this technology figuring out how it all worked but taking that information with them in death. Now the true science behind this technology is on the net and it will forever be on the net thanks to me. I did this with a whole lot of resistance coming from mostly Open Source forums of people trying to sound worthy of being listened too but having nothing to actually say who would repeatedly get in my way to the point of telling lies about me saying I was trying to rip everyone off when I was attempting to bring standardization to the table. I was banned and kicked out of all but two Open Source forums for my troubles even though I was the only one actually applying high voltage to his WFC. This is the school of hard knocks Meyer talked about but I persevered through it keeping my nose on the grindstone of science.


And I say this again, I don't share any credit with anyone, other than the most high YAH which whom I give all the credit, on figuring out the science behind this technology as I was basically told by the hho community and the scientific community to go take a hike.


Just take a look at all the many times I've been banned and that is not a complete list.


Take care all,
Edward Mitchell
CEO and Owner
True Green Solutions

activ25

Yeah, a lot of videos deseappered, maybe some patents are available.

pauldude000

Well, that just proves you are into censoring, whatever.


You can repeat "using scientific method" all you wish, but that changes nothing, as you do not own a license on the scientific method. Anyone who follows the steps below is using the scientific method.



1. Make an observation.
2. Ask questions.
3. Create a testable explanation. (hypothesis if you prefer the term)
4. Create a prediction based on the explanation.
5. Test the prediction.
6. Utilize the new information and repeat from step 1.


Most experimenters use the scientific method, whether they know it or not.


I have not read your work yet, but will give it a look and see whether it matches what I have determined. As far as you "being the only one" that is false, since obviously Stanley at the very least came up with the idea long before you. As far as any information I have, it came directly from Stanley's own mouth or writing. If I want to understand someone's point of view, I don't ask others, I ask them, so to speak. Stanley's patents are all available for download, nothing secret there. Videos of his are still on Youtube, so nothing hidden there either. Either way it doesn't matter since ENOUGH videos are available, with him providing the information personally, to provide the necessary information.


Paul Andrulis
Finding truth can be compared to panning for gold. It generally entails sifting a huge amount of material for each nugget found. Then checking each nugget found for valuable metal or fool's gold.


h20power

Quote from: pauldude000 on January 10, 2022, 05:02:10 PM
Well, that just proves you are into censoring, whatever.


You can repeat "using scientific method" all you wish, but that changes nothing, as you do not own a license on the scientific method. Anyone who follows the steps below is using the scientific method.



1. Make an observation.
2. Ask questions.
3. Create a testable explanation. (hypothesis if you prefer the term)
4. Create a prediction based on the explanation.
5. Test the prediction.
6. Utilize the new information and repeat from step 1.


Most experimenters use the scientific method, whether they know it or not.


I have not read your work yet, but will give it a look and see whether it matches what I have determined. As far as you "being the only one" that is false, since obviously Stanley at the very least came up with the idea long before you. As far as any information I have, it came directly from Stanley's own mouth or writing. If I want to understand someone's point of view, I don't ask others, I ask them, so to speak. Stanley's patents are all available for download, nothing secret there. Videos of his are still on Youtube, so nothing hidden there either. Either way it doesn't matter since ENOUGH videos are available, with him providing the information personally, to provide the necessary information.


Paul Andrulis


Since there is no way you could know this I spoke directly with Dr. Dingle when he was alive. You know the guy that drove two Presidents in his car with nothing but water in it's tank for fuel back in 1968. But getting to my point all the work I have put into this trying to get at the true science behind the technology is mines and mines alone. Now I gave away the science behind the technology for free as I had made this site a promise that if I got at the science I'd post it for all to have and I kept my promise and did so. Now that science is in the public domain complete with a whole new theory I came up with based on the science I uncovered.


You also don't seem to know that Meyer's injectors never worked and I know the reason why they didn't as Meyer himself also didn't know this information for if he did they why was he creating a research facility to study the technology further? When that theory makes it to the books of science it will have my ugly mug sitting right besides it as that's all I truly want is credit given were credit is due.


As far as I can tell not a soul has managed to put true high voltage to their WFC's since I showed it was possible in the interview video by John Fraser in 2013 while I was at the Global Breakthrough Energy Conference held in Boulder, Colorado. I know Meyer did so but he had been dead for 15 years when I showed a WFC having a applied voltage of 7.4kv to it's plates in a provable manor with all the correct equipment to do so. You see at that time all the science guys were telling me that one could not put a high voltage to a bath of water and when I did it they naturally went and moved the goal post on me saying water couldn't be broken down that way as that would violate the laws of physics. And when I showed a video of me breaking the bonds of the water molecules with high voltage potentials they just starting telling everyone I was cheating somehow. Since all the forums at the time sided with the mainstream science guys I gave up trying to teach anyone this technology and moved on towards trying to put the technology into the marketplace.


I think we are entering into what Arthur C. Clarke called, "The four stages involved in any revolutionary development."
1.  It's nonsense don't waste my time.
2.  Oh, it's interesting but not important.
3.  I always said it was a good idea.
4.  I thought of it first.


You see I am already prepared for this and have been preparing for this for a long time now. People are going to be coming out of the woodwork to try and take the credit for my hard work, but my defense against that is time as I figure this technology out a long time ago. Because I'm poor is the only reason why the technology hasn't made it to the market yet as the cost of doing so is on the high side.


All the many times I was told to shove that "Scientific Theory" where the sun doesn't shine, all those times I was told to just give up as it simply wasn't possible, and all the times the entire Open Source community rose up against me to ban me and kick me out of their forums I had to go through and I pressed on despite all of that. It wasn't easy and at times I was thinking of giving up but that is not in my character. That school of hard knocks is a tough one. Each time the Open Source community rose up against me it chipped away at my giving spirit and now I just give what I promised I would give and nothing more. Gunther my partner was surprised of how ignorant I was when it came to matters like these but was also equally impressed at how quickly I learned the ropes. You see I use to share everything in real time as I figured things out, but over time I lost the desire to do that due directly to how I was being treated by the Open Source community for doing so.


Now all of my efforts are to get this technology into the marketplace where it can start repairing all the damage we have done to our world with our use of fossil fuels.


Well, I think I have said enough on this. I hope everyone understands my position on these matters.
Take care,
Edward Mitchell