Quote from: citfta on February 04, 2022, 06:37:05 AM
In this long article a Canadian Doctor and many other researchers explain how the virus AND the vaccines are injuring and killing people.  A long article but very informative for those willing to listen to the SCIENCE behind the research.


https://www.wnd.com/2022/02/culprit-covid-vaccine-harm-micro-blood-clots/

Thank you citfta

I hope that AC will read the link as well. So many links related to covid lead to
garbage science that it is easy to make rash assumptions and simply refuse to
hear other views.   I found this article to be instead, well written, research based and
very informative.

  best wishes
          floor

Quote from: onepower on February 03, 2022, 11:15:09 PM
Floor
In some sense I agree and decided to change my mind on vaccine mandates.

We should let people decide there own fate and let natural selection run its course. Let the unvaccinated infect themselves, overwhelm the hospitals and seal there own fate. Those who cannot learn or adapt and seem determined to destroy themselves aren't really our problem. Maybe we should let nature decide?...

Maybe there right, my rights and freedoms should always come first. Maybe citfa was right and my thoughts have been corrupted by society. In nature the misguided or weak fall prey to natural selection making room for the more advanced. If intelligence were a lion and ignorance a deer should the lion give the deer its teeth and claws?. Well no, it's absurd, the deer would probably kill the lions to protect themselves. In nature ignorance equals natural selection and it's better to be a lion.

I think I'm done following society, it's a losing proposition and following natural law is the way forward.

Regards
AC

This is getting ridiculous. 

No one who opposes vaccine mandates wants death to the elderly or weak.  We are not rooting for natural selection. We do not want to see our parents, neighbors, or anyone else suffer.

But we do demand that our rulers truly investigate all remedies, including ones that can not be patented or medication that already exists.  Little if any research is going into  remedies that won't divert Tens (if not Hundreds) of BILLIONS into their pockets..  And of course the most invasive type of solution (which programs your DNA to create the spike protein) is the one they choose..

If a drug can not be patented, it is of no interest to them.  Do you want me to find you PROOF that big pharma has no interested in "cures"?  Because I am sure i can..  A patient cured is a customer lost.

There are many many good doctors out there presenting different options for covid protection, but their voices are being silenced.  It is very well possible that people following their advice are healthier and contribute to less transmission than the vaccinated.  But the public at large will not know, nor with it be confirmed because the corruption from the Government and Big Pharma is so massive that any opposing viewpoints or advice that has the potential to disrupt their profiteering is instantly drowned out and silenced before it can truly be explored.

WE as as Canadians and Americans still bear a great deal of responsibility to the
world in the form of leadership.  I am personally committed to honoring that role
by way of my own willingness to participate in communicating in an open minded,
honest and non provocative way.  I have nothing but gratitude for everyone else who
is also.
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@ floodrod

Quote from: floodrod on February 03, 2022, 10:19:12 PM
Now in your opinion, does the fact that FE is 100% clean put all global warming worries to rest, or does the thought of frivolous wastefulness pose more of a threat?

I would like very much to hear your own views on this, as well as those of any others
who will comment.

Quote from: Floor on February 04, 2022, 11:35:14 AM
@ floodrod

I would like very much to hear your own views on this, as well as those of any others
who will comment.

My answer may be long winded..  But I believe in intelligent design. I am not a bible thumper, although I do believe in a greater power and covenants (contracts).  For instance, a peach pit will most likely not blow in the wind and will fall under the mother tree where it can not take root. The peach tree needs the help of mobile creatures to spread it's seed.  So the peach tree creates delicious healthy fruit for the mobile creature to eat, in exchange for relocating the pit so the peach species can continue on.  There is an unspoken contract here.  The peach fruit is purposely created to be food for mobile creatures, and no harm comes to the mother tree by us partaking in that fruit.  This is GOOD- and within our rights to partake, as it is a "righteous" activity (righteous= living within one's rights).

Now back to the question at hand-  due to the "intelligent design belief", I must say we were absolutely meant to burn wood. We need heat, and the easiest way that was presented to us was to burn stuff.  All life is carbon based here- and all life decomposes. A fallen tree decomposing causes the same amount of C02 as a burned tree, just burning the tree releases the carbon quicker.  But cutting a living tree to burn sounds like a violation to me.  Instead, we should do our best to only burn already fallen trees / branches that are no longer changing carbon dioxide to O2 and no longer cleaning our atmosphere.

I find it difficult to properly evaluate topics of this nature because much of the so-called "scientific research" presented to us is politically driven or done for profit. And furthermore, it's very selective.  "Carbon Emissions" dominate this topic when Methane is 25X more potent and destructive in the short term.  And factory farming produces more methane than all fossil fuel and transportation combined.

To conclude- if we take only what we must. Use the resources that were given to us by design, and do not over-indulge -  We should be OK.  When humanity is ready for FE it will be given.  Another person may believe the "random universe" theory, then in that case, all my quackery goes right out the window.

The only thing I know for certain is that we don't know much at all.

It is my view that intelligent design manifests, through the mechanisms
of DNA and evolution. 

I myself find no    inherent    contradiction between the belief in intelligent design
and current theories of evolution.  Many would disagree with me on either side.

I see no other path back to the land, except those of either the near extinction of
mankind or more technological advancement with the intention of returning to
the land.

The hippies tried returning to the land in the 60s and 70s and in many ways it
failed miserably.   Their legacy is that they kindled the recollecting of the old
technologies, primitive skills, organic farming, responsible harvesting, herbal-ism,
family and small community farms many others.

Sorry, that's probably enough said.

  best wishes
              floor