Lunkster
How can it be improved ?


One independently verified true anomalous gain mechanism will
Move the open source community from chaos to coordination!


There are plenty of pots on the fire ( which is good if people share good or bad
Results)
Transparent Empirical testing of claims is our strength..
And the only way to move forward ( instead of looping failures .
Verifiable replication!
That is the open source communities  Gatekeeper !


Respectfully
Chet K
PS to Alan above
You write as if you have an understanding which
You have not shown?
And make accusations as if there is some purposeful
Hindrance?
Here a builder can grab a bench ( topic board)
And be his own gatekeeper!


The floor is yours for proving ( verifiable bench tests
No one will stop you !
And if it's a verifiable result ( here there are thousands who would bring that focus the lunkster
Says we are lacking!
A win win for humanity!!
PPS
Why do you also bring old posts up past recent good events?
Member JimBoot is building Solarlabs claims
AND
Is now moderator of Holcomb topic here ?
See post 1341


https://overunity.com/19069/holcomb-energy-systemsbreakthrough-technology-to-the-world/msg569873/#new


You have some confusing narrative of division?

My main point was the comparability of HES to Figuera which Marathonman has succesfully replicated, because he was convinced by someone that it is all fake.

This is almost the same as HES, he also closes the loop https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=huNBP7-QbI0

QuoteCLEMENTE FIGUERA PATENT (1902) No. 30375 (SPAIN) NEW PROCEDURE FOR OBTAINING ELECTRICAL CURRENTS IN GENERAL AND APPLICABLE TO INDUSTRIAL USES DESCRIPTION All systems adopted, until the present, to produce electric currents, are based on the well known principle that, when a core of soft iron which approach or moves away from a magnet is magnetized and demagnetized do appear induced current in any copper wire which is coiled in said core. This is the fundamental principle of the Clarke machine, of the company "The Alliance", and the current dynamos, which, like all others, are machines to transform mechanical force into electricity. In all of them, the magnetizations and successive demagnetizations of the core or cores is achieved approaching and moving away these permanent magnets or electromagnets, called excitatory. Those who sign, have devised a new method or process for producing magnetic changes in the core, and this procedure consists of making intermittent or alternating the current which drives the excitatory electromagnets, in which case neither the nuclei, nor the induced circuit need to be moved at all. The whole question comes down to change the state of magnetization of the cores, so that electrical currents could appear in the induced wire. Until now, this result is achieved by making the core or cores approaching or moving from the magnetic centers created by the excitatory electromagnets. We, through an intermittent or alternating electric current achieve a variation in the magnetic state of the cores of the excitatory electromagnets, and also changing, the magnetic state of the cores on which the induced circuit is coiled, where electric currents appear ready to be industrially exploited. As the soft iron core of a dynamo becomes a real magnet from the time when current flow along the wire of the induced circuit, we think that this core must be formed or constituted by a group of real electromagnets, properly built to develop the highest possible attractive force, and without taking into account the conditions to be fitted in the induced circuit, which is completely independent of the core. The procedure is thus reduced to establish an independent induced circuit, within the sphere of action or magnetic atmosphere formed between the magnetic pole faces, of opposite name, of two electromagnets, or series of electromagnets driven by intermittent or alternating currents. In the current dynamos, the coils of the induced circuit cut the force lines which go from the faces of the excitatory electromagnets to the core; in our procedure, the same lines of force, which are born and die cross through the coils on the induced. The novelty of our procedure is as follows:
1. In that, you do not need to use any driving force, since the machines built according to these principles will not act as transformers of work into electricity.2. In that, until the present, none has tried to change, at industrial scale, from zero, the magnetic power of the excitatory magnets or electromagnets of a running machine. Note: for which the patent is filed: Procedure to achieve electric currents, establishing a motionless and independent induced circuit, within the sphere of action or magnetic atmosphere formed between the magnetic pole faces of two excitatory electromagnets, or series of motionless electromagnets, powered by intermittent or alternate currents. Madrid, the 2nd of September, 1902. Signed: Clemente Figuera.


PRINCIPLE OF THE INVENTION Watching closely what happens in a Dynamo in motion, is that the turns of the induced circuit approaches and moves away from the magnetic centers of the inductor magnet or electromagnets, and those turns, while spinning, go through sections of the magnetic field of different power, because, while this has its maximum attraction in the center of the core of each electromagnet, this action will weaken as the induced is separated from the center of the electromagnet, to increase again, when the induced is approaching the center of another electromagnet with opposite sign to the first one. Because we all know that the effects that are manifested when a closed circuit approaches and moves away from a magnetic center are the same as when, this circuit being still and motionless, the magnetic field is increased and reduced in intensity; since any variation , occurring in the flow traversing a circuit is producing electrical induced current .It was considered the possibility of building a machine that would work, not in the principle of movement, as do the current dynamos, but using the principle of increase and decrease, this is the variation of the power of the magnetic field, or the electrical current which produces it.

Normal generators and dynamos convert mechanical energy into electrical energy, motionless generators like this manifest electrical energy.

Pierre had no independent replication of his "closes the loop"


In this forum are 10's of thousands of hours
Of combined efforts to replicate!
None successful!
EDIT

AND FOR CLARITY
Persons were in contact working with Pierre !!

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I know marathonman was trying for many years,
Now you have written he succeeded?
Here is my Email Chetkremens@gmail.com
Send it to him !


I might have his contact somewhere ,it has been a long time
and I know his heart is in the right place !
Or it's just another unreplicated claim which may or
May not be measurement error !


Independent replication/verification is the only
Path forward for the open source community!


Too many false claims abound !
And the price we pay while others play children's games ??

Pierre himself did close the loop.  
Part 2/4 to 4/4: 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rWvSe4GOz0A 
Closing the loop: 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dDp2VJkT76E&t=573s   
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=968Pwkmy-bo 

Marathonman's forum: 
https://figueramarathonman.boards.net/board/5/clemente-figuera-board

This pmgripphone is here somewhere at open source
Forums
I noticed he recently joined Peter's open source forum!( Overunityresearch.com)


Alan
Thanks I will try to reach out to Marathon man


Chet