Quote from: mscoffman on December 15, 2007, 03:38:47 PM
Wimshurst static electric generator machine are inheriently Coefficient of Output Power greater than one which use the environments internal power flows rather than ZPE zero point energy to function. Almost this is certainly true because some people have used and long antenna like wire to stimulate the enviroment to give back even more static energy to wimshurst machines. Wimshurst machine operate by means of static electric "recruitment of charge".

I'm usually a proponent of the ZPE theory because of the potentially large power output and the large output of the testatika, however, I really like this idea of antenna like wires extending out into the enviroment. The overall electric field would still be the same but it's the equivalent of putting a short thick pipe with holes in it to pull in oil and muck from a local pocket or putting out a long thin pipe with holes in it to reach more pockets. I'm very tempted to try it.

Quote from: mscoffman on December 15, 2007, 03:38:47 PM
Another post in this forum shows a high power wimshurst machine running in someones living room that almost certainly would have COP greater than one. I could see him lighting a big cluster of flourescent lamp tubes and collecting the resultant light with photocell strips and running a small electric motor to turn the wheels of his machine.

You wouldn't happen to remember where in this forum, would you?

Quote from: mscoffman on December 15, 2007, 03:38:47 PM
Some people talk about trying to use a Van De Graf generator for this purpose rather than wimshurst , but a Van De Graf generator uses a high voltage power supply to inject static charges onto a belt. This makes the resultant stored voltages even higher which simply makes downconverting to low voltages much harder.

None of my Van de Graaff generators work this way. Just a motor to turn the belt. A comb at the bottom to pull charge from a bottom bowl/box and another comb at the top to put charge on the top dome. Maybe there are some commercial use ones that supplement with a high voltage power supply but that's not normally the case.

Quote from: mscoffman on December 15, 2007, 03:38:47 PM
So the design of the testatika machine while quite advanced for 1924 or whenever it was initially

Sorry, normally I wouldn't nit but try around the 1970s and 1980s. It wasn't that long ago (for us who were around then.)

-Steve
http://rimstar.org

Quote from: sm0ky2 on December 16, 2007, 09:41:07 AM
One idea comes from a book written by some guy that claims to have witnessed the Testatika machine in action.

Which book is this? I'm always on the lookout for more testatika witness reports.
-Steve
http://rimstar.org

@ steve

sorry, this escapes me now, i found that device years ago, and went on an info binge, then let it go for a while, only to return to it later....

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Has anyone tried to electrolyze water, or other chemicals with static sparks??

perhaps we can use it as a catalyst in a known reaction, then extract the energy through alreayd perfected processes. ??

Hi all.....static is a very strange thing...
If i wear a nylon jumper when my whimhurst is going...then i feel a pulse in my jumper when the machine sparks, a real pulse like an impact.
If i connect an electrode to an object, then there is a cold wind coming out of the object, quite strong.
At the moment i'm making 2 LARGE caps...nearly done..had some sparks last night..
I have a few ideas i want to try myself 
Scotty
www.sciencedirect.com/science?_ob=ArticleURL&_udi=B6TVN-3SPGXP4-61&_user=10&_coverDate=04%2F10%2F1997&_rdoc=1&_fmt=&_orig=search&_sort=d&view=c&_acct=C000050221&_version=1&_urlVersion=0&_userid=10&md5=d6159700604925019876ba6f23e50c03

and
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science?_ob=ArticleURL&_udi=B6TVC-3VS8J70-9&_user=10&_origUdi=B6TVN-3SPGXP4-61&_fmt=high&_coverDate=01%2F29%2F1996&_rdoc=1&_orig=article&_acct=C000050221&_version=1&_urlVersion=0&_userid=10&md5=2b8c00d73e8d7ce22cd60aa765708ab7
I think Ed was right all along.

   Search for PCM or pulsed current multiplier. See the tpu thread under otto's. Gives the name of the patent as well and a google book exerp to read up on. Built a 4 stage and it works good, so on to a ten stage unit.

thaelin