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Nathan Stubblefield Earth battery/Self Generating Induction Coil Replications

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Pirate88179

#625
December 31, 2007, 12:47:08 AM
@ Artic Knight:

I just checked the pictures as posted here and they say jpeg.  But, I checked the photo as posted on page 42 and it says PNG. I checked the same photo in my pictures and properties says jpeg.  This is weird.

Bill
See the Joule thief Circuit Diagrams, etc. topic here:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=6942.0;topicseen

Bruce_TPU

#626
December 31, 2007, 12:48:11 AM
Quote from: Pirate88179 on December 31, 2007, 12:20:42 AM
@ Jeanna:

Thank you, and Happy New Year to you as well!

@ Bruce:

Thank you for your explanation.  Here is yet another very crude drawing of todays cell arrangement.  Please feel fee to ask any questions as this may be the single worst drawing yet.

HAPPY NEW YEAR to everyone!!!



@ Bill,

Thank you for the drawing.  It would appear that you have wired your Earth battery in parallel.  This would explain the increase in amperage, and is very good news.  It shows proof of concept to increase power output.  It should let you wire in series also, then, but if not, it is simple to turn amps back to more voltage.  By looking at your picture I see three Cathode electrodes (negatives, your Mg and 2 Zn)  A simple and easy experiment would be to add three or four more Zinc cathodes, and see if you continue to see more amperage.  Of course, true parallel is to increase the number of carbon rods accordingly. 

In the original dry cell battery, the zinc is normally the anode (positive) and the carbon and magnesium was combined for the cathode (negative).

What are your present ground conditions?  On a scale of say, 1 being dessert and 10 being mud with standing water on it.

Lastly, what is the PH of your soil?  This could also have a positive affect, if your soil is acidic. (Like mine is back home.  ;D )

Thanks!

Bruce

Quote from: Pirate88179 on December 31, 2007, 12:40:32 AM
@ Artic KNight:

Thanks for the advice but, I just checked the properties of my pictures and they are saved as jpegs. They originally come out of the camera as bitmap which this site does not accept so now I save them all as jpeg.  Why would this change when uploading????

@ All:

I was just outside looking at the cell in the dark.  A couple of things.  First, I just remembered that when I first tested with the arrangment as seen in my crude drawing posted earlier, a 6" long earthworm came up out of the ground about 5" from my magnesium block like his ass was on fire! I didn't think they could move that fast.  Then, about 2 seconds later, a 3" long centipede came up a few inches away.  What does this mean?  Or just coincidence?

One big question I have is why did my mA increase when I am tieing my electrodes together in what is basically a parallel arrangement? (2 on the +, 3 on the -)  I have one idea.  as we have guessed, amps I believe are tied to SURFACE AREA.  I think these tests make a good case for it.  What do you think?  Only thing that does not fit is the volts went DOWN using this setup like you would expect in series.  Very strange.  does this have something to do with why the earth battery cells do not like series?

Bill

EDIT:
Bill, it means the earthworm and centipede feel the electrons moving and they want out of the way!  LOL  Have none of you guys ever pulsed the ground after wetting it to get worms to the top to grab and fish with?   ;D  City Dwellers!  ;)

EDIT 2:
Bill, parallel increases amperage, and series increases voltage.
1.  Lindsay's Stack TPU Posted Picture.  All Wound CCW  Collectors three turns and HORIZONTAL, not vertical.

2.  3 Tube amps, sending three frequency's, each having two signals, one in-phase & one inverted 180 deg, opposing signals in each collector (via control wires). 

3.  Collector is Magnetic Loop Antenna, made of lamp chord wire, wound flat.  Inside loop is antenna, outside loop is for output.  First collector is tuned via tuned tank, to the fundamental.  Second collector is tuned tank to the second harmonic (component).  Third collector is tuned tank to the third harmonic (component)  Frequency is determined by taking the circumference frequency, reducing the size by .88 inches.  Divide this frequency by 1000, and you have your second harmonic.  Divide this by 2 and you have your fundamental.  Multiply that by 3 and you have your third harmonic component.  Tune the collectors to each of these.  Input the fundamental and two modulation frequencies, made to create replicas of the fundamental, second harmonic and the third.

4.  The three frequency's circulating in the collectors, both in phase and inverted, begin to create hundreds of thousands of created frequency's, via intermodulation, that subtract to the fundamental and its harmonics.  This is called "Catalyst".

5.  The three AC PURE sine signals, travel through the amplification stage, Nonlinear, producing the second harmonic and third.  (distortion)

6.  These signals then travel the control coils, are rectified by a full wave bridge, and then sent into the output outer loop as all positive pulsed DC.  This then becomes the output and "collects" the current.

P.S.  The Kicks are harmonic distortion with passive intermodulation.  Can't see it without a spectrum analyzer, normally unless trained to see it on a scope.

Artic_Knight

#627
December 31, 2007, 12:57:31 AM
earth worms will jump out of the ground like that if there is a current run through it. so my question to you is was this earth worm between the poles?  you must be drawing the current and because its now moving through the earth instead of standing still that excited the worm. 

i wanted to note something i might not have mentioned from my sand battery experiments.  when i made a battery mixture, sand water and salt with the poles inserted, it started to generate a low current that gradually grew, if i jumped it off with a battery it started high and gradually went down.

i believe this is due to the particles in the ground need to be aligned for conducting or something, they eventually find a happy medium and stay there until the energy is depleated and that happy medium would be somewhere between the starting current and the charged current.  i will try tomarrow to get my poles properly aligned and see what happens when i run a charge with my portable car starter :D should see some worms hehehehe. 

on a side note, get a hand crank generator and 2 skinny long metal ground inserts and you can scare dozens of worms out of the ground, good for fishing so you dont have to tote them around, just get them from the river bank. essential for every outdoorsman kit.

Pirate88179

#628
December 31, 2007, 01:09:41 AM
@ Bruce:

on your scale, I would say about 6.5 to 7.0.  Pretty wet.  I have seen where my volts increase when it is more dry than it is now. I have no idea what the ph is at this time.  It rained a couple of days ago.  I knew volts or amps could drive worms up, which is why I noticed.  I just didn't think we were getting anywhere near enough for them to feel, maybe we are. I would love to drive them ALL up!!! Ha ha. (Makes me feel like a mad scientist) I also knew that parallel boosted amps. but did not know it also cut volts. (Ohm's law?) Yes, I guess it is.  I can be dumb, sorry.

Sounds like Artic Knight is really going to boost his cell.  I can't wait to hear the results.  Good luck with that. I still want to try something similar with either static like Bruce suggested (Jeanna's method seems easiet) and or some other "high voltage" method.

I have a few other crazy things I want to try when I can.
See the Joule thief Circuit Diagrams, etc. topic here:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=6942.0;topicseen

Bruce_TPU

#629
December 31, 2007, 01:35:53 AM
Quote from: Pirate88179 on December 31, 2007, 01:09:41 AM
@ Bruce:

on your scale, I would say about 6.5 to 7.0.  Pretty wet.  I have seen where my volts increase when it is more dry than it is now. I have no idea what the ph is at this time.  It rained a couple of days ago.  I knew volts or amps could drive worms up, which is why I noticed.  I just didn't think we were getting anywhere near enough for them to feel, maybe we are. I would love to drive them ALL up!!! Ha ha. (Makes me feel like a mad scientist) I also knew that parallel boosted amps. but did not know it also cut volts. (Ohm's law?) Yes, I guess it is.  I can be dumb, sorry.

Sounds like Artic Knight is really going to boost his cell.  I can't wait to hear the results.  Good luck with that. I still want to try something similar with either static like Bruce suggested (Jeanna's method seems easiet) and or some other "high voltage" method.

I have a few other crazy things I want to try when I can.

@ Bill,

Thanks for the wetness reading.  Parallel should not cut volts from what you had.  We are trying to increase over all power (amps x volt = watts) not transform.  I wonder what would happen if you added a third anode (+) to the two.  This would give you three and three.  Perhaps your volts would be back up if it is balanced, but unknown.

Cheers,
Bruce
1.  Lindsay's Stack TPU Posted Picture.  All Wound CCW  Collectors three turns and HORIZONTAL, not vertical.

2.  3 Tube amps, sending three frequency's, each having two signals, one in-phase & one inverted 180 deg, opposing signals in each collector (via control wires). 

3.  Collector is Magnetic Loop Antenna, made of lamp chord wire, wound flat.  Inside loop is antenna, outside loop is for output.  First collector is tuned via tuned tank, to the fundamental.  Second collector is tuned tank to the second harmonic (component).  Third collector is tuned tank to the third harmonic (component)  Frequency is determined by taking the circumference frequency, reducing the size by .88 inches.  Divide this frequency by 1000, and you have your second harmonic.  Divide this by 2 and you have your fundamental.  Multiply that by 3 and you have your third harmonic component.  Tune the collectors to each of these.  Input the fundamental and two modulation frequencies, made to create replicas of the fundamental, second harmonic and the third.

4.  The three frequency's circulating in the collectors, both in phase and inverted, begin to create hundreds of thousands of created frequency's, via intermodulation, that subtract to the fundamental and its harmonics.  This is called "Catalyst".

5.  The three AC PURE sine signals, travel through the amplification stage, Nonlinear, producing the second harmonic and third.  (distortion)

6.  These signals then travel the control coils, are rectified by a full wave bridge, and then sent into the output outer loop as all positive pulsed DC.  This then becomes the output and "collects" the current.

P.S.  The Kicks are harmonic distortion with passive intermodulation.  Can't see it without a spectrum analyzer, normally unless trained to see it on a scope.
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