@ Bruce:

Thanks!  Actually, to build the cell I used today on the minus side (there is a good photo of it a few pages back) would not cost that much.  The zinc spikes are like $1 ea. (2) and the mag blocks are about $4 ea. (3) and I had some 18 ga. copper wire lying about that I finally found.  I still think we can do better on the magnusium blocks from another source like mcmaster or something.  If we can find plate stock of both carbon and magnesium then freezer's design would be the best I think.  Surface area is what gives amps, I am just about sure of that from my experience here.  I got good volts using carbon/mag. but not much mA until I greatly increased surface area.  And, as you see, my volts are down a bit but, mA is up and power is everything right?  I also like Hans's idea for Freezer about placing the plates together and sealing them as he said.  Once your magnesium get there, you will be an order of magnitude better with mA I believe.


@ All:

I know I have probably missed some posts here so I will go back and read.  I am just thrilled that my idea worked, to an extent, when I have no "theory" other than surface area to explain it.  I have not yet tried "juicing" the cell with the old 9 volt but may do that later to see what happens.  The copper wire may play a part in this, or maybe not.

Bill

QuoteThe thing that is going on in my mind is a thought generated by that frequency driven motor that (was it) Dayton C Miller?  had in his collection.

G'day Jeanna and all.

You have really intrigued me with that comment. A frequency driven motor? This I would like to see. I cannot find a reference to it in Miller's writings. Can you remember where you heard about this?

I shall go down on my knees and cyber-kiss your toes if you can point me in the right direction. 

Hans von Lieven

Quote from: hansvonlieven on January 09, 2008, 04:49:34 PM

QuoteThe thing that is going on in my mind is a thought generated by that frequency driven motor that (was it) Dayton C Miller?  had in his collection.

G'day Jeanna and all.

You have really intrigued me with that comment. A frequency driven motor? This I would like to see. I cannot find a reference to it in Miller's writings. Can you remember where you heard about this?

I shall go down on my knees and cyber-kiss your toes if you can point me in the right direction. 

Hans von Lieven

Sorry Hans,
Not Miller but Rudolph Koenig. It is on the forum page on your site. And He called it an acoustic turbine. Which after it went through a few circuits in my own brain came out as frequency motor. Sort of similar. I tried to find it when I was writing but it just evaded me.    As I mentioned I was reeling with multiple associations going on in my brain!)  so sorry.
jeanna

I love you Jeanna,

I thought I had really missed a major thing in my research and you are telling me you got it from my site. WOW the boost to my ego.

Consider your toesies kissed anyway.

Hans

WAYDAGO Bill!!
You are the great inspiration here.

Just to sooth my envious heart, I put together 2 of those carbon and Aluminum in a sodium carbonate solution to get a light. I was wondering if I had forgotten how to wire a led or something. It works, so I guess my wiring is OK.

I have 3 (wired for surety) cells in the back yard. 2 of them give me an increase but the 3rd either shorts out or makes the voltage go down. But at no time do I ever get more than 1.64vdc.  The carbon rods are only a very small amount better than the carbon pencil and the carbon filter granules are better than either. I wired everything out there and still not enough for a light. by a hair. Once I got 1.8vdc. but no light on the led.

I am keeping them outside to charge up from the currents.  That seems to help with the cement pots. Next thing to do is dig some deep holes and do what Bruce and Freezer are doing.

jeanna