Quote from: aether22 on March 04, 2008, 04:54:00 PM

Polar: However, this does not seem to be an improvement to the motor - would it not be better to remove that load altogether

Aether: In it's current form yes...

Good, now we're getting on the same page. So we agree that, with the device in its current form, the motor works better if the device is removed. So far so good.

The next question, then, is: what results are there from the current experiments that suggest how it would eventually be modified to improve the motor performance rather than detract from it?

Polar, I have already said how in other messages, to recap:

Reduce losses (friction and cogging torque, wind, eddy, hysteresis) and make use of the energy induced in the coils. (but that would make a sad demo as it would not go (much?) faster when shorted as it would already be at/near max speed unless you added another load)

Or the isolation experiment I suggested, basically to research what the generator is outputting, generate it more powerfully with less input and output it to better use than a motor.

Finally selection of the right motor for the job rather than the right motor for a dramatic demo.

But as for proving it works (does something unexplainable and fascinating according to physics), that part is already done.

yadda, yadda, yadda 

Does it work or not?

Quote from: RunningBare on March 04, 2008, 07:39:35 PM
yadda, yadda, yadda 

Does it work or not?

Of course it works, that is a proven fact.

But I wonder if you are trying to trick me.

If you want to discredit it, you could make a straw man attack, claim it does not work as something other than what Thane (or I for whatever that's worth) has claimed it to be.

A ready to manufacture net motor power booster, no, not yet.
A Free Energy generator that out preforms normal generators, no, not yet.

A device that creates something that travels through the shaft and into the motor boosting motor power in a way not explainable by current physics opening up a new arena of research which can surely lead to the above, YES!

Quote from: aether22 on March 04, 2008, 07:41:58 PM

Quote from: RunningBare on March 04, 2008, 07:39:35 PM
yadda, yadda, yadda 

Does it work or not?

Of course it works.

The definition of "works" is the following:
1. Connect an electric motor to an arrangement of magnets on a disc, with adjacent coils and things. This arrangement loads the motor (through the electromagnetic force between the magnets and the coils) and so slows it down.
2. With a series of switches that make the loading coils open-circuit vs closed-circuit, reduce the electromagnetic loading (because of changing the back-emf).
Result:
The motor speeds up and the input power goes down. The reason is probably that in #2, there is less power being dissipated in the loading mechanism.