Quote from: gotoluc on March 09, 2008, 06:21:22 PM

We have some very interesting results .

I have made 2 primaries this week and so far the 2nd one is working so well that we are having difficulty understanding why it is doing what it is.

Thane and I have been at the Ottawa University all weekend testing it. At this moment I am just waiting for Thane to send me the data of the test and I will post it as soon as I get it.

Stay tuned

Luc

Looking forward to your report!

Johnny

LUC  sounds very exciting   also sounds like a good time I envy you fellows    Chet

Quote from: JustMe on March 09, 2008, 06:35:31 PM

"In your view, how important is understanding the mechanism responsible for the effect to making progress on the engineering side? Is it imperative that one understands precisely what's going on to apply it effectively and efficiently? Or can research and development happily co-exist?"

In other words, it's not clear to me where the effort needs to be right now to get from point A to point B in the best and most productive way. Of course, it doesn't have to be. It just has to be clear to Thane, and any of the replicators out there, whatever their respective theories may be.

It normally goes like this:

1. Demonstrate a prototype which, however crudely, provides objectively measurable end-results that show how the device can be used to improve a real end-product. In this case it would mean demonstrating that the device improves the efficiency of a motor. (Or any other real end-result would be fine too provided it has value and provided it can be objectively measured, right now, on the actual prototype.)

OR

2. Put forward a theory of operation that can be properly defended and shows that the creator understands the mechanism/phenomenon/process at work and rigorously describes it in proper scientific/engineering terms. Show experimental results that clearly prove this fundamental mechanism (not necessarily, in this case, the end-result) and also, very importantly, exactly how that mechanism can be incorporated with further development into an actual prototype like #1.

What do you think?

Quote from: polarbreeze on March 09, 2008, 06:48:08 PM
It normally goes like this:

1. Demonstrate a prototype which, however crudely, provides objectively measurable end-results that show how the device can be used to improve a real end-product. In this case it would mean demonstrating that the device improves the efficiency of a motor. (Or any other real end-result would be fine too provided it has value and provided it can be objectively measured, right now, on the actual prototype.)

OR

2. Put forward a theory of operation that can be properly defended and shows that the creator understands the mechanism/phenomenon/process at work and rigorously describes it in proper scientific/engineering terms. Show experimental results that clearly prove this fundamental mechanism (not necessarily, in this case, the end-result) and also, very importantly, exactly how that mechanism can be incorporated with further development into an actual prototype like #1.

What do you think?

Please everyone here
If you do not find the information posted here to be satisfactory to prove to you what we don't even understand ourself, then I suggest for you come to Ottawa for a demonstration and make your own measurements and conclusions. If you cannot come to Ottawa then please build it for yourself. If you cannot build it for yourself, then wait some time and we will build units that you can buy and see the workings of it for yourself.

Luc

JM PB we have MEN!!! in the field right now  working on this    maybe you two should email each other privately Chet