I have a question:

How many people have observed this difference between steel-shaft and brass-shaft behavior?

I know Thane has observed it in his lab and I think maybe others have too but I've lost track.

Anyone care to share with us their brass-versus-steel results?

PB

Sure Thane, Ahem.

Ok, this is what I understand of it, as I have said before I didn't only not believe in the aether (or anything like it) but actually hated it, a repulsive concept, I liked an empty universe clean universe rather than new agey mysterious airy fairy claptrap..

But I am a sucker for evidence and truth, and after researching lots and lots of different Free Energy and Antigravity devices (ones where no explanation other than them being real could explain the evidence), hoping to find correlations (but not some ultimate energy responsible for all of it).
The first thing I found was that impossibly there were no correlations (at least on the level I was looking for them), but I found several other things, I found there were extraordinarily strong correlations between totally different devices but in ways that made no sense, actually increasingly all devices despite the fact that few if any were designed based on what was coming to light, the aether.

Another observation is that these devices have a tendency to manifest more than one 'impossibility', there are a number of free energy devices that besides other side effects demonstrate antigravity.

Likewise there are antigravity devices that have Free energy as a side effect.
The most interesting is the GEET carburetor which has over a hundred anomalies including generation of heat and cold, electromagnetic fields, transmutation, fogging of film besides of course overunity operation.

Anyway yadda yadda I came to realize that it was true beyond any doubt whatsoever, and here is what I have found. This is not theory (as that is projecting beyond what is plainly spelt out by the evidence) but observation of phenomena, much like the difference between observing that fire exists and theorizing how it works and what it is.
Everything I present here has tons of evidence that made me draw the following inescapable conclusions.

Aether is the medium of space and increasingly apparently matter. (as mentioned previously I thought this was likely the case then attended a lecture by a physicist who won a noble price for work in QCD and he described what I termed the aether and showed it to be the medium in which all matter is just an eddy. He had 'proof' and agreed with the term 'aether')

Meanwhile I have found time and again that the type of Free Energy (and antigravity) device that I hope I would find, the 'logical' type that exploits a loophole, that out foxes the universe does not exist.
But if you can change the rules by changing the board game on which we play the game almost anything becomes possible.

Ok, so this is the condensed version because no one would read the full version, but here goes.

First there are 2 slightly different issues, one is that there is aether, it's everywhere, if you compress it you can fit more matter in that space. (which is why parallel mine shafts have been repeatedly measured in different places to be further apart at the bottom, yes really.

You can move it, one reason this is interesting is that you can carry (less dense) aether disturbances such as magnetic fields, electrons sometimes and if you wondered why twins have a connection it's because of resonant aetheric coupling, a superluminal stream of aether carrying various things including the fields that make up thoughts and feeling etc... (not just twins of course, the Russians did an interesting (read disgusting) experiment with killing baby rabbits as they monitored the mother who was far away from the babies in a sub deep under water as they monitored her polygraph)

Another thing though is that by moving it, it flows through and is agitated by matter and this agitation is important. (it's known as torsion, orgone etc...)

So there is the aether, the movement of the aether (acceleration/deceleration of aether imparts a force as per Morton, podklennov and many others), the compression (and rarification) of the aether (note: another Russian experimenter had nested coils finding that if they pulsed inwards time inside slowed down slightly this is due to the coils dragging and compressing aether much as a large mass does, if reversed time sped up) and the energisation of the aether.

The latter can be gained in several ways, well there is radionics (which works just like the twins, resonance pulls an increasingly strong current of aether from a matching disturbance, or it can be shaken out (which is how homeopathics works, aether (at least some of it) keeps moving even after matter has stopped and is thrown out, this is why 'succession' it so forceful and violent and sudden)
Other examples are tiny particles that are out of control such as bions discovered by Reich (which create Orgone radiation) or very similar if not identical oemus/m-state which are tiny metal particles spinning like crazy which also radiate distirbed aether.
But the best way is to make aether move through something that disturbs it especially.

note: As noted previously HV, ionizing radiation, radioactive decay also energize the aether.

That is why some have found something called 'orgonite' to work, if you move aether through a substance that irregularly reflects and refracts it (yes, aether can move Ok through say a ring of metal but dislikes discontinuities) it becomes agitated. (There is a guy, I think his name was Bob, he took at iron powder toroid and wound over it a number of segmented windings which he energized in sequence, they pulled the aether through the iron powder core as the aether becase more and more churned and agitated until he either attracted a lightening strike, or possibly generated one!)

This was also found by another Russian which turned it Cavity Structural Effect, it has been discovered time and again in a dizzying array of devices and methods but then again it is how our bodies create orgone/life energy/chi (has tons of names).
That is why many (especially the Chinese) will talk of blocks in your chi, if the aether is moving through your cells it literally generates tuned life energy.

No I didn't start believing any of this fringe energy based health stuff until I would learn something else about the aether and suddenly the penny would drop and I'd suddenly 'get' something I previously thought to be rubbish.

Anyway that's the basics, now here is some more relevant stuff.

The aether (perhaps it must be reasonably energized?) can help pull in or project a magnetic field. (many many examples but an interesting story is that of the guy who managed to attract steel to his hands by running a magnetic field through his body carried)

This might be how the motor is increasing performance, if it is then it can be OU and can be used to create an very very much overunity transformer. (a loose coupling transformer)
Many many many solid state FE devices provably use this effect, an interesting example is the Kipper coil. (Ground radio is another, but there are tons of examples, 20 or so)

Oh, if you have 6 conical coils with an aether flow through the wires they will project an aether flow out the ends, if you focus these 'beams' on a central point not only will it compress the aether but it can create antigravity.

Now you may ask why aether comes out the end of the cone, is it due to the cone shape? In part yes as the aether will flow towards something that will compress or squeeze it.
But that's not all, I do not know why but there is an effect, it may be dependany on direction I am not sure, it may generate or only amplify aether flows but simply aether 'enjoys' flowing at right angles to it's self.
So a pancake coil will also create a beam.

As will to a lesser extent (or more correctly a lesser density) and coil.
It is also why Slim Spurling's rings work (new age fruit cake who just so happens to have something) and why caduceus coils have strange effects and much much more.

Another thing worth mentioning is that magnets tend to generate an aether flow along the field lines, out of the north and into the south.
Look into Boyd Bushman who focused 5 magnets to get a focused magnetic field carrying aether beam, it also could increase the discharge distance of a VDG from a fraction of an inch to 5? feet along the beam. (recall I said electrons are carried, much evidence for this)

Now, rather cutting edge, so much so I can't say it's fact or stake my life on it like I truly could with much of this stuff, but a time varying aether flow seems to have an enhanced action of inducing an aether flow at 90 degrees.

Another thing, aeher flows at 90 degrees to electric fields, or tends to.
So putting electric and magnetic fields at 0 degrees creates 90 degree aether flows.

Ok, there is a bit more though less relevant but for relativly if brief completeness.
Some things absorb and others transmit (yin and yang) either all or most common forms of orgone/chi/aether disturbance. (that is how Reich's orgone accumulators work)

Female              Male
yin                 yang
clockwise spiral    anticlockwise (spiral, coil, rotation)
\\ handed mobius    ///// Handed Twist (mobius or twist)  -reverse?
Antenna like conver-
ging lines like a           The point being the pushing
cone or pyramid \/
Positive            Negative (electrical polarity, how the Joe cell works)
Diamagnetic         Magnetic
South               North
resonance reciever  resonant energy   
secondary is yin    primary (transmitter) is yang
Dielectric?         Metal?  (might be just a manifestation of dia/mag as all ORAC's were mag/diamag layering as well as metal/dielectric)
Night               Day
Vacuum              Noble gas (especially in conjunction with a magnet)
Update: Sparks especially in an orgone rich environment cause an 'explosion' of charged orgone. (and causes an implosive effect on metal akin to gravity)
Oh, another thing and this one is important, Aether moves very very well in circles, so give it shorted loops/coils etc...

One last note, an entrained aether (which this is) agrees with ALL evidence for light speed, it has the same predictions as SR for any cases where SR is proven right and explains what is going on where SR has failed (which is never if you believe SR's adhenents but they just ignore stuff that is inconvenient)
It is worth noting that Einstein and the scientists that preformed the experiment generally believed to have debunked the concept (it's late but never thought I'd forget their names!) of an aether all continued to believe it it none the less and that such experiments disagree with SR anyway.

So here is what I would do.
While very 'attached' to the experiments above (a few messages ago^) the most critical is to feed the aether (or back-emf) into various test devices that will only show a result if one thing occurs such as pulling a distant field in, decreasing hysteresis etc...

We know that this 'whatever' is effecting the motor and we need to hand it simpler systems to see how it effects them.
In the end that is the most critical thing, not what is communicated by the axle but what it does, personally to me it would seem a magnetic field alone would seem impotent to have the effects that have been witnessed but if you think it can that's fine by me.

Here would be a roadmap I'd set out:
Try the experiments above.
If they work as hoped/expected then use aetheric output of the generator (axle and or coil) to use in a loose coupling transformer. (the primary could maybe even be the grid, but it's not stealing power)

Then use the info above to improve the generator (and or make a bigger better faster one, even a solid state one) and apply the aetheric electrical current to conical coils focused in on a point.

Orgone could be made by using coils with orgonite (or iron powder).
Twisted wire coils (look up Slim Spurling) could also be placed shorted in the generator circuit around someone with health problems. (actually I tried it on my (reluctant) mother with the generator I did make and just now realize she reported improved health but I had not thought it could be due to the device till just now)

It is also worth noting that using wire coils around another wire (like the other wire were a core) or a tightly twisted pair may make improved coil for the generator, and hollow steel cores (as per hop toad) in place of solid, if you want to go all out carbon rods of vials of noble gas inserted in the core may give interesting results.  This is all very speculative.

Good night, no time to proof read or speel cheque.

addition: Asymmetric, biased and nonlinear things effect the aether (as well as aetyher having nonlinear effects).
One interesting example is that after realizing that I heard of a claim where the 3 qualities were impressed in electrical signals (biased, asymetric and nonlinear waveforms) and this caused copper wire to become superconducting.

Greetings Gentlemen,
I have emailed Dr. Mike Rosing. He is the skeptical scientist who decided to try to measure/validate the failed Steron's device. He is also an instrumentation expert. I have emailed Dr. Mike seeking his comments and here is his reply (quoted with his permission):

QuoteHowdy Adam,

I saw this on FreeEnergyTracker blog
(http://freeenergytracker.blogspot.com/) but didn't give it much thought.

I'm having too much fun trying to model Bussard Fusors for the moment,
but the first thing comes to mind looking at these claims is that they all use
volt or amp meters to try to figure things out.  What they really need to
do is hook up one of those LED+generator flash lights and run the motor
without added coil for 2 minutes and see how long the LED's glow, then
hook up the motor plus coil and run it for 2 minutes and see if there is
any difference.


Trying to argue internal/instantaneous power misses the point.  If there
is an energy gain, it has to be able to do useful work.  Hooking up
something that takes work and converts it back to heat is the ultimate
test.  So using a microprocessor to turn on a relay for 2 minutes and then
turn off is a really good and cheap way to control the input power.  Do it
10 times and you've got good statistics even.


If it really works - he can run a submarine under water longer.  Lots of
people will pay him big bucks for that.  The added cost and weight of 10%
more efficient motors is well worth it for that application.  I doubt it
has anything to do with "perpetual motion", but one professor suggested it
may be a more efficient way to run a motor. The LED test would prove that
too.

So I'd suggest putting up a real test - finite input power/energy with
microsecond control (a PIC can do that!) and a real load with an easy way
to measure the output under different conditions (with and without extra
coils).  All the other measurements are fine - but they don't tell the
whole story.

Dr. Mike's web site is here:
http://www.eskimo.com/~eresrch/

Quote from: polarbreeze on March 25, 2008, 01:08:09 AM
ADDED: The result will be something like this link http://polk-burnett.apogee.net/pd/dmcs.asp - note that at low rpm it's absolutely normal for torque and speed to rise while current falls. I think we can conclude that the device is simply a magnetic brake after all.

Thane has spoken more than once about induction motors having the property of requiring less and less power as they accelerate, so I don't think this is new. His affect initiates acceleration from a steady RPM, something that would intuitively seem to need at least a temporary bump in input - or the release of a braking affect, as you and others have pointed out. I find your conclusion, and what seems to be an implication that there is no value in the affect, premature.

Can someone tell me if the terms "hysteresis brake" and "magnetic brake" are synonymous as they are used on this thread?