Hi All,
Has any one tried duplicating Snow's patent on how to stack cell's in the earth to up the voltage.


http://patimg1.uspto.gov/.piw?Docid=00155209&homeurl=http%3A%2F%2Fpatft.uspto.gov%2Fnetacgi%2Fnph-Parser%3FSect1%3DPTO1%2526Sect2%3DHITOFF%2526d%3DPALL%2526p%3D1%2526u%3D%25252Fnetahtml%25252FPTO%25252Fsrchnum.htm%2526r%3D1%2526f%3DG%2526l%3D50%2526s1%3D0155209.PN.%2526OS%3DPN%2F0155209%2526RS%3DPN%2F0155209&PageNum=&Rtype=&SectionNum=&idkey=NONE&Input=View+first+page

Thanks Vince 

Hi Bill,

Quote from: Pirate88179 on March 31, 2008, 10:34:22 PM
@ Jeanna:

I don't understand why you are not getting better results as in higher volts and mA's.  Especially when you tied into your other electrodes as well.  This is curious.  It should be about 1 volt and, depending on the size, 20-80 mA's.

All the components of this coil are galvanically very close. It has only iron and copper which gives about 20 or 30 mv when just using the 2 of them. even in salt water. The presence of zinc makes it go to .7v and above.

 

QuoteDid you wet the soil when placing it into the ground?  Or was your coil still "wet" from a good soaking?

It has been raining and snowing here. Today was the first day with 3 hours of sun in 2 weeks!  But it is not inside the soil just the stake up to the point where the coil begins. I wetted the coil before I went out.
I have no secondary for this one and I want to make that before I dig it into the soil. I don't want the dirt to be in the way yet.

QuoteI also do not understand the business with the caps.

Nor, do I . The reason to put a cap across the 5 and 6 is to see what is going on without the added input of the meter. It doesn't actually allow current to go past its own fill point so it is not really like a short of the wires there. Does this make sense?

QuoteI never did check my super cap for amps only volts. 

Me either.

QuoteWe will get this figured out.

And we will have fun learning about it. Have you thought about how much you have learned since September? I am very happy with all this.

jeanna

I want to bring this forward. this following is from 3 posts of the past that were at the very beginning. When I didn't even know that cu and fe were close to each other galvanically.

Quote:
It was too stormy here all day and when it cleared I put a piece of rebar and a 10 " by 2 " copper plate into the surface of the ground (no deeper than 1"). they were sort of N-S  and I got a steady .16V sometimes and a cycling from .18V to 0 . Then I connected between the copper plate and the the shovel I had propped up next to the rebar and got a very steady .18V. I guess the shovel has a lot more surface area than the rebar. This is too low. but I am encouraged to keep going. The day was ending and I could barely read my multimeter inside the shed.

Then Bill replied:

QuoteConsidering the galvanic differences in your metals you should/could have produced .40 volts

on another day I posted this:

Cu > rebar  0.13v
Cu > Zn        0.6v (galvanized 10 penny nail)
Cu > graphite  0.24v (carpenter's pencil - what a great idea, bill)
graphite > Zn  0.9v

I think there is very low salt content in my soil. My soil is silt and rocks. Glacial till it is called.

I will see this summer on my mountain retreat where the pH is 10 and the soil is full of CaCo3 and sand.

meantime, I am accustomed to low readings and I just compare my readings with mine, no anyone else's.

I hope this clears up some random questions,

jeanna

Quote from: jeanna on March 31, 2008, 10:14:46 PM
Gary

QuoteI think  if  each  builder  kept  a file of  the basics that he or she was  working with .... like   wire size    readinngs  taken   and  what  you are doing  different   

I can easily do that. I only need to go into my own past posts to get all of it.
I have kept records in a text file as well. It is easy enough. I can post it but it will take up a lot of room, maybe I could post the dates of the results posts.

In fact I think this is a good idea for all of us. I hear folks refer to posts I think I missed.

jeanna

The   extra  space  might be a problem  ......  I know Stephen   has already  made some changes to  limit  bandwidth


gary

Quote from: Pirate88179 on March 31, 2008, 10:34:22 PM
@ One:

But how many windings did you have on your secondary?  I am not talking about building a big one just yet, but I believe the patent calls for what is, to me anyway, a large number of windings on the secondary.  That is why I asked how many you have.  I have some magnet wire here salvaged from a monitor which is about 200 feet or so and I can use that.  I don't/won't know how many windings that will be until I do it.  As you said, whatever that turns out to be will at least be something to start with.

Bill

I  still along way from  doing a secondary
I need  a get  the  electromagnet  part  of  the  inductive  coil  right . before I  even think about a secondary

gary