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Started by paxo, June 18, 2006, 10:40:21 AM

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Elvis Oswald

I will personally vouch for Jack H. as a good fellow.

To those who immediately jumped on him... maybe that's exactly what he meant.  Think about it.  Everytime he's posted here, he's answered with people either calling him a scam artist or wanting to come to his house.
Unless Jack has ripped you off - you only look like an ass by wasting your time spouting off at him.
And as far as coming by his house... think about it... would you open yourself up to visits from 'anyone' on the net who has a passing interest in overunity??

But anyhoo....

Jack - I know you may be tired of working on the motor... but what about patenting then valve device???  Any device based on that would pay you a royalty, right??  And with that public... there might be all sorts of good technology that comes out of it. :)  Think about the kids.

jake

Jack,

I would love to join with Drak and witness your motor.  I can be there it 2 hours given a day or two's notice to schedule it. - just let me know when to be there.

Jake


Elvis

QuoteI will personally vouch for Jack H. as a good fellow.
Nobody has claimed otherwise.  He has been nothing but cordial and friendly to me.

QuoteAnd as far as coming by his house... think about it... would you open yourself up to visits from 'anyone' on the net who has a passing interest in overunity??

Yes.  Why not?  I would have everything to gain and nothing to lose.

Quotepeople either calling him a scam artist or wanting to come to his house.

I have not called Jack a scam artist.  I have offered to come to wherever it is his motor is - I don't know if it is at his house.  I offered it good faith to do whatever I could to help test the motor.  I offered for him to come to my place of business and test the motor here.  I offered to meet anywhere in between.

What is important to note here is that people are trying to provide ways for Jack to prove to the world what he is doing.

Offering to help prove his point by witnessing and reporting to everyone else here provides a very substantial step towards credibility.  The more people that actually witness the device and test the device, the more likely it is to get traction.  The reason I offered is because I live close enough to Jack for it to be practical.  Drak does as well.  It is not practical for someone to travel from Europe or Australia, when several of us live within 2 hours driving distance of Jack.  I travel regularly to withing 30 minutes of where Jack lives.

If Jack's motor is even close to 500%, it would be the easiest thing in the world to convince people of.

Jake



As for the "men in black" theories, I don't believe them.  Let's say you own a power company.  Someone creates a motor like Jack's, that actually produces more power than it consumes.  You buy the motor from Jack for $20,000,000.00.  What do you do with the motor?

The conspiracy theorists say you "shelve" the motor, which really makes no sense at all.  If the device worked, you build it, use it, and quit spending billions of dollars on mining for coal, transporting coal, building scrubbers for coal plants, dealing with coal waaste, etc., as well as get rid of all of the employees and equipment used to do the activities that you would no longer need.  You can still sell the power for the price you are selling today, with almost zero operating costs.

You tell me what the power company would choose to do.  I can produce free energy and still sell it, or I can shelve the device and keep digging for coal, transporting coal, burning coal, building scrubbers, hauling away the coal waste, etc.

This is an easy one to figure out.  The device doesn't exist, because if it did, it wouldn't have been purchased for $20m and put on a shelf.  It would be running and putting the coal mines out of business.

RonS

In defense of Jach H., isn't it funny when someone comes across with a reason why he/she may not feel it correct or possible to release a device, they get stomped on by?

I would think that unless someone had something to gain themselves that they would attempt to contact Jack H. in a private way, rather than jump all over him where the world can see. For those FEW people out there that could, would or want such a device, they are indeed in the FEW. The general public will not accept the concept of a non-conventional device until the main stream science team sign on. This will only happen after they die off. They are not going to go down looking like all their years were spend in ignorance. As long as all Universities and large labs obtain federal money, hell will freeze over before this happens.

Only new up and coming scientists can be groomed or directed to a different way of thinking, IF they are exposed before getting that Grad Degree, once that happens its almost impossible to change your way.

As with Jack H., I have been in the active EE field for 42 years, starting with the vaccum tube, I remember when semiconductors started to come out, how I and many my age resisted, we still help out for the big iron xformers and the tube rectifiers. I think what changed the direction was once semi's became available at a good price, you payed a mountain for an iron xformer and tubes were like gold.

I agree, build the device, put it in you back yard, keep quite and be ready when the knock comes on your door, it will. You will be served with a search warrant from the power company, because there is no way your power demand dropped to nothing. Even if you have a chemical device doing the generation, they will take it and insist it was coupled into the grid, taking power from them. If that don't work it will be taken as a hazard, you can not explain how it works in a way that any scientist will back up, so it has to be bad.

Jack H., don't talk about it, build it for you while you can, but be smart in using it. Over time the outlook will change, it has to, although you and I will no longer be here.

Liberty

Jake,

If I could bring forth a possible senario:

The 'conspiracy' theory version might make sense if the energy companies maintain world control for world government through the use of fossil fuels, and to stop using these would break that strangle hold and cause them to loose power over the nations, spoiling world government control plans.  Then the money theory that you bring forth would not be in the best interests of the energy companies anymore.  (At least at this time).

The energy companies could continue what they are doing with fossil fuels and when they are ready to make the transition to free energy, they would have all of the devices on the shelf to dominate the market instantly.  (Except mine). :)
Liberty

"Converting Magnetic Force Into Motion"
Liberty Permanent Magnet Motor

jake

Quoteisn't it funny when someone comes across with a reason why he/she may not feel it correct or possible to release a device, they get stomped on by?

No, it's not funny.

What is funny is that there have been hundreds if not thousands of people making the same kinds of claims for hundreds of years, with not one device being legitimately and openly shown and validated.  There are only supposed successes shrouded in secrecy, with stranger and stranger reasons why they can't produce a working model.

If you believe that I "stomped on" Jack, please show me specifically where and how.

Making an offer publicly puts the terms on record for all to see.  This is to protect Jack and me.  If I made the offer privately and proceeded to "steal" Jack's idea, there would potentially be no record of my intentions.  I stated my offer and intentions publicly in a format that Jack could use in his own defense if I misrepresented myself.