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Overunity Machines Forum



Shorting coil gives back more power

Started by romerouk, February 18, 2011, 09:51:45 PM

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minoly

Very Nice!
I like where this thread has been going since I last had a peek.
We finally figured out the simple method of using the SSG to short the coil
"http://tinyurl.com/SSGshort"
will have to give the Opto a try.
Thanks,
Patrick

Thaelin


Magluvin

Im glad you guys are seriously considering the optical idea.
What is great about it is, you will be able to have many on/off periods in a small area, where the magnets/reeds make that virtually impossible.
And the speed of the sensing should be fantastic as said in a previous post.
You could even print coded bars on transparent sticky sheets.

Good luck. =]

Mags

Tudi

I hate to be a spammer. But i would love to assemble such a device for experimenting. And i think i'm asking for a very small thing. : What is the input and output power ratio ?
It's just a simple Amper measurement besides the Voltage increase.

Is it just drawing more power from the batter at once stacking it up at the output ? Is this peak draw so fast that the multi meter cannot measure it (it does an avg over time)?
I was watching the osciloscope outputs ( much finer value sampling then multimeter) just makes me think that there is voltage spike that guys harvest and then there is a period of silence (not mentioning the BEMF ) to wait for the recharge from the battery of the coil. So basicly the multi meter is measuring the spikes at the output and probably just skipping the input spikes ? Just a wild guess. I'm simply trying to understand the magics behind of it. Such simple circuits tend to hold no magic. Even if the coil is harvesting ambient energy, you should feel some sort of radio signal loss, or maybe heat loss ( EMF are everywhere )..

Bruce_TPU

Quote from: Tudi on March 30, 2011, 05:20:56 AM
I hate to be a spammer. But i would love to assemble such a device for experimenting. And i think i'm asking for a very small thing. : What is the input and output power ratio ?
It's just a simple Amper measurement besides the Voltage increase.

Is it just drawing more power from the batter at once stacking it up at the output ? Is this peak draw so fast that the multi meter cannot measure it (it does an avg over time)?
I was watching the osciloscope outputs ( much finer value sampling then multimeter) just makes me think that there is voltage spike that guys harvest and then there is a period of silence (not mentioning the BEMF ) to wait for the recharge from the battery of the coil. So basicly the multi meter is measuring the spikes at the output and probably just skipping the input spikes ? Just a wild guess. I'm simply trying to understand the magics behind of it. Such simple circuits tend to hold no magic. Even if the coil is harvesting ambient energy, you should feel some sort of radio signal loss, or maybe heat loss ( EMF are everywhere )..

Tudi,

These individuals on this thread are experimenting.  The concept is based on Ismael's electric car.  Go find that thread, read through it.  Then experiment.  No one hear will give you what you want.  No one here is even close to that stage.  So please either experiment and post some information, or simply watch.

Thank you and have a nice day,

Bruce
1.  Lindsay's Stack TPU Posted Picture.  All Wound CCW  Collectors three turns and HORIZONTAL, not vertical.

2.  3 Tube amps, sending three frequency's, each having two signals, one in-phase & one inverted 180 deg, opposing signals in each collector (via control wires). 

3.  Collector is Magnetic Loop Antenna, made of lamp chord wire, wound flat.  Inside loop is antenna, outside loop is for output.  First collector is tuned via tuned tank, to the fundamental.  Second collector is tuned tank to the second harmonic (component).  Third collector is tuned tank to the third harmonic (component)  Frequency is determined by taking the circumference frequency, reducing the size by .88 inches.  Divide this frequency by 1000, and you have your second harmonic.  Divide this by 2 and you have your fundamental.  Multiply that by 3 and you have your third harmonic component.  Tune the collectors to each of these.  Input the fundamental and two modulation frequencies, made to create replicas of the fundamental, second harmonic and the third.

4.  The three frequency's circulating in the collectors, both in phase and inverted, begin to create hundreds of thousands of created frequency's, via intermodulation, that subtract to the fundamental and its harmonics.  This is called "Catalyst".

5.  The three AC PURE sine signals, travel through the amplification stage, Nonlinear, producing the second harmonic and third.  (distortion)

6.  These signals then travel the control coils, are rectified by a full wave bridge, and then sent into the output outer loop as all positive pulsed DC.  This then becomes the output and "collects" the current.

P.S.  The Kicks are harmonic distortion with passive intermodulation.  Can't see it without a spectrum analyzer, normally unless trained to see it on a scope.