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Shorting coil gives back more power

Started by romerouk, February 18, 2011, 09:51:45 PM

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Magneticitist

lol very few people believed me when i tried to explain this coil shorting last year whats up with that =)

use a reed switch and a FWBR but have the reed triggered by a separate set of magnets (for less pulsing and drag) and end up with a MUCH higher potential to work with from a gen coil at the sacrifice of less overall current.

neptune

@Magneticist . One problem with OU research is that there is just too much info .Few people have time or inclination to closely scrutinise everything .Perhaps you could post a link to you work ?
Edit . Does anyone know what core material Romero used in his machine pictured on page 3 of this thread . Is it ferrite?

Magneticitist

lol its cool dude i know how it is im pretty sure its all been covered by now so thats a good thing. i had some good results feeding the pulsed gen coils back to the front end on a particular motor but it was never overunity as the battery would still eventually drain, though much slower.
if u are interested in particular a couple vids i made are
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nhBBjvBBbew
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R5H0_TIl9bc&feature=channel_video_title
showing a modified bedini with the basic gen coil reed-pulsing setup but using E core transformers as the gen coils.

nul-points

Quote from: neptune on May 22, 2011, 03:08:42 PM
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Edit . Does anyone know what core material Romero used in his machine pictured on page 3 of this thread . Is it ferrite?

hi neptune

i believe the Gen coils are taken from a microwave oven (did someone mention fan?)  the core is the laminate on which the original coil was wound for the oven

the drive coil is basically the same as for the Muller, so probably the salvaged ferrite from a display monitor which R mentioned on muller thread

hth
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teslaalset

I'll copy below reply that I posted in the RomeroUK thread, since this seems to be a more appropriate thread:

A nice intro of understanding what kind of effect shortening of a coil has, is following lession from MIT on Eddy Currents, although it's a rather long video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UpO6t00bPb8

If you want to skip the formula part, the central interesting part comes in from time = 40:03 where the phase lag of the current in a shortened coil is demonstrated and calculated.
In short: the phase delay of current is easily calculated by tangens phi= wL/R, where w = omega = frequency x 2 x pi.
The smaller the R, the bigger the current delay.
In theory the current delay can be max. 90 degrees.

Critical factors: R of the coil, and L, the coil value, where a low R is extremely important.
This is why litze wire is used in critical setups.
The right combination will cause the desired magnetic kick.

Understanding the above also points to the optimum timing of shortening a coil in a generator setup.