The Gabriel Device, possible COP=8

[Elisha]

Hi Mavendex,

I will give and advice and everybody will make a lot of money, Mavendex, thane and everybody that read this forum.

The first thing is group thinking, If my friend is rich I'm rich, if we work together like a team we can make a better device and make a rapid buck.

The spiritual group think of thane heins, give to him mavendex with a better idea, mavendex and thane will soon discover another people with better ideas to complete the device.

Mavendex and thane need to make a developer kit1 (as is), with everything needed to make the device in home, you buy at lot price at let me say 300 dollars and sell to anyone to 300 + 30 dollars for the kit.  If I go to buy the kit piece by piece by mysell this will cost to me 350 dollars and time, is better to me to buy the kit at 330 dollars or 340.  you make right know 30 or 40 bucks, you sell hundreds of this kit. 

In a month with the contribution of ideas of the people in this forum you make a better kit2, for 250 dollar you sell to 250 + 30 dollars and sell hundreds of kits, the same for kit3, kit4, upto the final release of a complete device.

You make the money right now, from day 0, and everyone like me will make money selling this device to our friends that dont want to read this forum and/or dont want to get the hands dirty with circuits (there is millions of this people).

And if the circuit dont work in the long time, because someone will discover a fatal flaw, you go with the money from day 0 and without remorse.

Group thinking!!

[Aphasiac]

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[e2matrix]

Hello I will answer as best as I can,

This version with the new shell needs to be recalibrated for wire and what not I did change more than one variable and have to compensate for these changes, be assured for every 1 watt in we get 12 out thus far.

1)the primary I have found, should no longer be tin plated copper and normal magnet wire  will work better in this instance of the new shell, optimal sizing of wire is still being experimented with I have wound it counter clockwise and towards myself it does make a difference if you are winding away or towards your self, the toroidal halves
2) I am useing are mild steel or cold rolled steel, feel free to experiment with other metals as this is a cage.
3)yes the halves should insulate from each other other wise the effect is no longer present
4)The direction of the primary is the same as the secondary as far as winding, conventional winding ratios are out the window, how ever much is on the secondary has a ceiling applied and will always be present. currently I have 3.1 ohms of resistance 16 awg wire on the secondary which is yielding a ceiling of 180 volts
5)on this current size and still needs to be calculated and restructured as far as the math goes but as is with current setup 97 turns of the primary will get you to the sweet spot, again winding ratios calculations for conventional transformers are null
6)yes that is how I made it although I do plan to experiment with other frequencies for other projects
7)yes the toaster is my limiter, I will be changing that soon
8)yes to measure your output I would use light bulbs, wear sunglasses and have a meter (be advised if you turn off the secondary before the primary you will get a backspike)
9)impedance matching as far as I know there is no need, again the device is being recalibrated
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Ok, I'm done Gabbing about patents so back to the Gabriel.     In thinking about the winding directions you give above I believe it would still be possible to make the mistake of winding it the wrong way Unless we know where the toroid is in relation to you and whether you are starting on the right side of it or the left side or even on the closest side (assuming the toroid is laying flat in front of you). 
Assume for a minute you have the toroid laying flat directly in front of you.  If you start winding COUNTER-CLOCKWISE toward yourself AND you have started on the right side of the toroid you will be winding CLOCKWISE toward yourself by the time you are half way done when you get to the left side.  So if you started on the left side winding COUNTER-CLOCKWISE toward yourself you would have a different wind direction than the first instance.  Sorry for the CAPS - not yelling but just wanted it to be easier to read.  So does this question sound logical?  I think we need to know which side to start CCW toward ourself. 

[wayne49s]

Elisha has a good idea.  We won't get to a new paradigm if we divide ourselves and there is a unique opportunity to create a new one.  The existing one with the patent is well worn and tried, and looks like it has traps and risks even for the inventor. There is synergy and like-minded people in this forum, so no reason not to help each other.  I'll be interested to buy and resell any applicable product from Mav; I originally thought I would buy the donut from him since he paid for the original tooling.

There's no reason Mav shouldn't be able to make a living from his activity, so I'm opened to listen to any proposal he may have.


/Wayne

[Mavendex]

As you look at the shell with your wires sticking out faceing you I start at 12 oclock wrap to the left towards yourself the secondary should also be wound like this.

experiment, this works for me. I would use a smaller gauge wire on the primary windings so far at the sweet spot is 97 not sure yet about smaller wire but it should be about the same since the inductance will go up but then again Im not useing tinned wire anymore because it seems to saturate the outercore too quickly, we will see if there is a difference but in my experience thus far there is a difference between tinned wire and magnet wire, but this will be the tell all for sure.

Mav