The Gabriel Device, possible COP=8

[Magluvin]

Hey Mav

How high was the voltage with the thin laminate shell? 

Below is a pic of how the pdf attached (again for those that have not read) explains flux propagation from the primary is able to cut the secondary windings.

Today I was thinking, what happens in this device being the shell is in the way of the flux getting to the other side.

Does it just flow around the inner doughnut(of the shell) without penetrating the shell?

This may be our problem area.  If the flux wants to cut across as shown, possibly more material can be applied to the inner circle of the shell, leaving the sides and outer shell thin.. Mav, since you are the champion winder ;] and had problems with this thin shell, maybe when you rewind it, you could try thickening the inner dia of the shell with more strips.  ;]   Its worth a try..

I would think to thicken it  a bit wide from middle level, where the shells normally meet all the way around.

This way the primary field still has a way in around the thin areas.

The secondaries field will more likely want to cross over toward the opposite side of the inner core, like in the pic. If it can, it will cross the primary causing the primary input to rise.  ;]

With these thoughts, Im not sure yet how it relates to my cylinder style model. Thats what Im going to think about the rest of the afternoon at work.

Mags

[Magluvin]

One more ting.  Yes ting.  ;]

I really really really want and need to see a scope shot of in and out. The sec should be interesting to see when the primary penetrates the shell. This must be why there is a phase difference. The sec current doesnt begin till the primary field is at the point of just penetrating the shell. so the primary leads by quite a bit possibly.  ;]

And does this delayed penetration cause a pulsed type wave to the sec? Off during low level(not penetrating) and On above threshold(penetrating).   Scope shots.



Gotta see a scope shot.  May have to buy a core.  What is the best?  Are you using the best?  ;]

Mags

[Hope]

Jouleseeker:  please, could you share the supplier of those cheaper ultra cores you mentioned.  I am heavy on researching correlations and this takes me all over the net.  But still I have not found a USA source to ultra sat. cores with a value pricing.  I will study the formulation they use and check the data specs with respect to Magnetecs offerings and give the forum the straight scoop on it.  We all seem anxious to get started with a build.  I still think a rod inner core wrapped with 4 sections of pipe (split 4 ways) will allow us to phase each pipe section, squeezing the electrical/magnetics to respond differently than any device presently on the market.  These nano ultra SHEETS could be used to line or cover the pipe in different ways or just wrap the secondary in it as the core covering then wrap (wind) the primary over the sheet.  (This may prove to us that the steel doughnut is not needed).  that way we could add all the windings we want to the secondary and then just wrap it with sheets split to sections or spirals to cause the phase shifts.

[Hope]

As far a matching the resonance automatically here are to interesting links displaying Bedini like simple circuit doing that.  I have these schematics if any want to build like units.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4l1PfmTheFM&feature=autoplay&list=ULHx7aWaPbBo4&lf=mfu_in_order&playnext=1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hx7aWaPbBo4&feature=bf_prev&list=UL4l1PfmTheFM&lf=mfu_in_order

Give me some feed back please if this was useful to anyone.

[Hope]

Can we make these torrid blanks ourselves (within the forum) using this technique?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vkdr3JKovZQ&feature=related

Granted it is copper, but light gauge metal should be workable too.. or not?