PhysicsProf Steven E. Jones circuit shows 8x overunity ?

[e2matrix]

A Non-Disclosure and Proprietary Rights Agreement signed in part by any reputable institution is currently all that is required. Private individuals are not included as it is impossible to determine who they are and what interests they represent.

Doc,  you do know who Jouleseeker is don't you?  BYU physics professor retired IIRC and somewhere here is his web page at BYU.  I'll just say I believe Jouleseeker has nothing but good intentions here for the world as a whole.  I recall he has donated hundreds of devices to third world people so as to help them have ability to cook and have clean water (fuzzy on the details but it's something close to that). 

[DrStiffler]

  Makes some sense, yes.  Does the individual at a reputable institution sign, is that sufficient, or does a representative of the institution need to sign also?

  I'm very interested in seeing that developments such as yours reach the people, as opposed to enriching the elitists/big corporations.  Is that your approach also?  or do you seek to sell to a corporation?

  To me, this is an over-riding consideration.

My Barristers are stern on this point and it all is about responsibility if breached, so no, alumni will not do it, has to be the University.

I have already lost one circuit to another country with no recourse due to the 'Public Domain' aspect of postings. Although I am not holding out for a sale to a major corporation or confiscation under national security, I fully believe the general public can not replicate in kind a device that would benefit them in any meaningful way. You should be aware at your current stage of what is called 'Creative License', where, whatever I have in parts should work just as well in my design as yours?? Over the years less than 10% of followers of my work would do it as I specified (in Toto). The ones that did had replications and the ones that did not failed only to bash me and my circuits. The most predominate of those individuals exist on this forum and are either COINTELPRO or total idiots. Anyway back to the requirements, I am walking a thin line as you will if you find the key to you so called OU. To obtain my data and the third party results will require the request from an institution that has resource to go after if they violate the terms of the agreement.

Oh, the PRA does indeed include a non-compete clause.

[DrStiffler]

Doc,  you do know who Jouleseeker is don't you?  BYU physics professor retired IIRC and somewhere here is his web page at BYU.  I'll just say I believe Jouleseeker has nothing but good intentions here for the world as a whole.  I recall he has donated hundreds of devices to third world people so as to help them have ability to cook and have clean water (fuzzy on the details but it's something close to that).

Of course I do, so what?

Does a title or a long history of anything insure you are correct in everything you do?

I think Dr. Jones would be the first to admit that if he has or will obtain what he is looking for that he indeed must renounce much of his past understanding as regards (conventional Physics) unless as is the natural course, just develop an overlay like Quantum or String Theory has done as the underlying layers could not supply the answers.  Of course we have those that would mold something into convention so as not to rock the boat.

I have the 'Utmost Respect' for Dr. Jones and his background, albeit to say I have a far more comprehensive background in this particular area. Do I, or have I ever obtain respect, NO! and I do not need it, my circuits and speak for themselves regardless of what the pundits and so called 'Alternative News' say.

So flat out I do Respect Dr. Jones, but does that mean what he is doing or what he has is insured to be a gift to humanity, no...

[totoalas]

  Hello, totoalas -- nice device, lighting LOTs of LEDs! 
You wrote:  "12 v 1m A Simply the Best"

Most of the devices in the running here are below 12uW, whereas yours is at 12mW...  but if you could scale this down (perhaps by adding resistance to the base resistor), it would be interesting to see!   also, could you provide a schematic drawing for this circuit? 
In any case, thanks -- I like the work you have done.

Thanks  Jouleseeker  / Dr, Stiffler   / Dr Jones / Groundloop/Lidmotor / Gbluer :Slayer}and  Jonny   and Xee2  and all

Thought this is for fun  so hope it stays that way
Practical application  for a self loop  circuit will undoubtly  be the most appropriate

Below is the circuit
http://www.energeticforum.com/134003-post1616.html
Modified  circuit   description
http://www.energeticforum.com/134611-post1634.html
Test method for Verification by Groundloop
http://www.energeticforum.com/134705-post1639.html

[JouleSeeker]

My Barristers are stern on this point and it all is about responsibility if breached, so no, alumni will not do it, has to be the University.

I have already lost one circuit to another country with no recourse due to the 'Public Domain' aspect of postings. Although I am not holding out for a sale to a major corporation or confiscation under national security, I fully believe the general public can not replicate in kind a device that would benefit them in any meaningful way. You should be aware at your current stage of what is called 'Creative License', where, whatever I have in parts should work just as well in my design as yours?? Over the years less than 10% of followers of my work would do it as I specified (in Toto). The ones that did had replications and the ones that did not failed only to bash me and my circuits. The most predominate of those individuals exist on this forum and are either COINTELPRO or total idiots. Anyway back to the requirements, I am walking a thin line as you will if you find the key to you so called OU. To obtain my data and the third party results will require the request from an institution that has resource to go after if they violate the terms of the agreement.

Oh, the PRA does indeed include a non-compete clause.

Very interesting -- and thank you for your frankness, Dr. Stiffler.
And thanks, e2matrix.  My website can be found by googling " Dr BYU "

Dr. Jones has given several hundreds of the aluminized-mylar Solar Funnel Cookers to families in developing countries in Haiti, Bolivia, Kenya, Turkey and Ecuador, with the most recent solar-cookers given to folks in Mali (2006, see photo below) and Mozambique (2007).  More will go to help refugees who have fled from Iraq and/or Kenya.

(Most folks call me Steve, please.)

   I'm not likely to get BYU to sign an NDA to look at your device, Dr. Stiffler.   And I'm personally going open-source with all my alt-energy work now, including the solar cooker/cooler I developed.   I would avoid signing a non-disclosure agreement because it might restrict me from talking about my own research in alt-energy.  I've already turned down getting information on one "magnetic generator" because of they insisted that I sign an NDA first -- and they didn't even have a working prototype.  No thanks, I told them.  An NDA appears to me inconsistent with open-source development of energy for humankind.
 
Frankly, I'm glad I accepted early retirement so that I can invent without having to worry about "my institution" claiming "intellectual property" for anything I might come up with.

I'm not competing with you or with anyone -- well, BigOyl might consider OUR work as competitive... but my goals are to empower the people WITHOUT getting stomped on or bought out by the elitist corporations.